Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapped files

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To: Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@...>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...>, <peterz@...>, <salikhmetov@...>, <linux-mm@...>, <jakob@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <valdis.kletnieks@...>, <riel@...>, <ksm@...>, <staubach@...>, <jesper.juhl@...>, <akpm@...>, <protasnb@...>, <r.e.wolff@...>, <hidave.darkstar@...>, <hch@...>
Date: Friday, January 18, 2008 - 6:47 pm

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Ingo Oeser wrote:

I certainly don't mind it if we have some tighter guarantees, but what I'd 
want is:

 - keep it simple. Let's face it, Linux has never ever given those 
   guarantees before, and it's not is if anybody has really cared. Even 
   now, the issue seems to be more about paper standards conformance than 
   anything else.

 - I get worried about people playing around with the dirty bit in 
   particular. We have had some really rather nasty bugs here. Most of 
   which are totally impossible to trigger under normal loads (for 
   example the old random-access utorrent writable mmap issue from about 
   a year ago).

So these two issues - the big red danger signs flashing in my brain, 
coupled with the fact that no application has apparently ever really 
noticed in the last 15 years - just makes it a case where I'd like each 
step of the way to be obvious and simple and no larger than really 
absolutely necessary.

			Linus
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[PATCH -v6 0/2] Fixing the issue with memory-mapped file times, Anton Salikhmetov, (Thu Jan 17, 6:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 0/2] Fixing the issue with memory-mapped file..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 3:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 0/2] Fixing the issue with memory-mapped file..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 6:31 am)
[PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapped f..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Thu Jan 17, 6:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapp..., Linus Torvalds, (Fri Jan 18, 6:47 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapp..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Mon Jan 21, 10:36 am)
Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapp..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 3:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapp..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 5:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapp..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 6:04 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapp..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 6:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 2/2] Updating ctime and mtime for memory-mapp..., Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 6:39 am)
[PATCH -v6 1/2] Massive code cleanup of sys_msync(), Anton Salikhmetov, (Thu Jan 17, 6:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH -v6 1/2] Massive code cleanup of sys_msync(), Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Jan 18, 5:33 am)
Re: [PATCH -v6 1/2] Massive code cleanup of sys_msync(), Anton Salikhmetov, (Fri Jan 18, 6:30 am)