RE: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

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To: Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Sunday, September 2, 2007 - 10:01 pm

Alan Cox wrote:


Correct.


Correct. They need the right to redistribute the work, and they may obtain
that right from either license.


Here's where your train goes off the rails. They do not receive any right to
use it from you. They receive a license to use it under the GPL from the
original author. Please read GPL section 6.

"  6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the
Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the
original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to
these terms and conditions.  You may not impose any further
restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein.
You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to
this License."

The GPL does not give you *any* right to extend anyone a license to code you
did not author. (Nor can it as such an extension would have to be done in
writing in most countries.) When you distribute a GPL'd work, the right to
use every creative element in that work is licensed to the recipients
directly from their respective authors. Under no circumstances does the GPL
ever give you the ability to license someone else's work to a third party.


Either license can grant you the right to distribute it, but how you get the
rights to distribute has *NO* effect on the recipient. They receive a lawful
copy and any rights the original author grants them under a license from
that original author. You have no power to grant or modify rights to the
original work.

This is a common misunderstanding.

Note that you may remove the text of either license from a dual-licensed
file and redistribute under the other license because neither license
requires you to retain the other license and both licenses give you the
right otherwise to modify as you wish. But the removal of a license from a
file has no effect on the grant of license. Your recipients still get a dual
license to those protectable elements in the file that were placed under a
dual license. You cannot stop the automatic grant.

DS


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Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 12:48 pm)
RE: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 2, 10:01 pm)
RE: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 2, 10:01 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Sep 3, 4:58 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Pavel Machek, (Thu Sep 6, 3:12 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 3, 5:21 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Sep 3, 5:47 am)
RE: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 3, 5:54 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jan Engelhardt, (Mon Sep 3, 5:03 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 2, 11:11 pm)
RE: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 3, 5:48 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 3, 2:01 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 3, 2:26 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 3, 3:04 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, James Bruce, (Tue Sep 4, 4:50 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Tue Sep 4, 12:59 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 3, 3:33 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 3, 8:19 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Tue Sep 4, 9:27 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Tue Sep 4, 1:13 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Sep 5, 8:16 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Chris Friesen, (Tue Sep 4, 3:28 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Tue Sep 4, 4:28 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Michael Poole, (Tue Sep 4, 3:44 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Tue Sep 4, 7:08 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jacob Meuser, (Sat Sep 1, 4:57 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 1, 1:21 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 1:37 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 4:54 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Sam Leffler, (Sat Sep 1, 6:03 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 6:29 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 5:27 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 5:52 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jason Dixon, (Sat Sep 1, 8:36 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jonathan Gray, (Sat Sep 1, 10:22 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Alan Cox, (Sun Sep 2, 6:18 am)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 9:55 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sun Sep 2, 1:09 am)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 1, 9:34 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 9:39 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Casey Dahlin, (Sat Sep 1, 9:58 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jason Dixon, (Sat Sep 1, 10:44 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Al Viro, (Sat Sep 1, 10:06 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 1, 9:43 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Luis R. Rodriguez, (Sat Sep 1, 9:42 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Al Viro, (Sat Sep 1, 9:53 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 7:29 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 8:09 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 8:53 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 7:20 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 2, 7:50 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 8:28 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 9:00 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sun Sep 2, 9:57 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 2, 10:11 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 11:58 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Matthew Jacob, (Sun Sep 2, 2:23 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 2, 9:12 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 2, 8:36 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Luis R. Rodriguez, (Sat Sep 1, 7:48 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 8:11 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 5:16 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 5:51 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 6:06 pm)