RE: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

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Date: Sunday, September 2, 2007 - 10:01 pm

> - If you receive dual licensed code, you may not delete the license

This is absolute nonsense. By default, you can remove a license if you want
to. This is why both the GPL and the BSD licenses have clauses requiring you
to leave them in.

A file that is under a dual license may be used under either the GPL license
or the BSD license. Neither license requires you to retain the *other*
license in the file. So there is absolutely no reason you cannot remove one
license or the other. To argue otherwise is to argue that you need to comply
with *both* licenses in a dual-licensed file to get the rights granted by
either, and that's nonsense.

You cannot, of course, modify a license and expect your modified license to
apply to protectable elements you didn't author. And anyone who receives
modified versions of the file still has all the rights the original authors
grant them.

Let's perform a thought experiment for a moment. Suppose the BSD license
explicitly said you could remove the licensing clause if you wanted to.
Would you still argue that you couldn't remove it even though it says you
can? Well, the GPL says you can modify anything you want to, except *THAT*
license. This means you can remove any other license notifications you want.

Note that your license editing or removing has no effect on the rights
people actually get except to your code.

DS


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Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 12:48 pm)
RE: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 2, 10:01 pm)
RE: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 2, 10:01 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Sep 3, 4:58 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Pavel Machek, (Thu Sep 6, 3:12 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 3, 5:21 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Sep 3, 5:47 am)
RE: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 3, 5:54 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jan Engelhardt, (Mon Sep 3, 5:03 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 2, 11:11 pm)
RE: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 3, 5:48 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 3, 2:01 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 3, 2:26 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 3, 3:04 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, James Bruce, (Tue Sep 4, 4:50 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Tue Sep 4, 12:59 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 3, 3:33 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 3, 8:19 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Tue Sep 4, 9:27 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Tue Sep 4, 1:13 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Sep 5, 8:16 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Chris Friesen, (Tue Sep 4, 3:28 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Tue Sep 4, 4:28 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Michael Poole, (Tue Sep 4, 3:44 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Daniel Hazelton, (Tue Sep 4, 7:08 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jacob Meuser, (Sat Sep 1, 4:57 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 1, 1:21 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 1:37 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 4:54 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Sam Leffler, (Sat Sep 1, 6:03 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 6:29 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 5:27 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 5:52 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jason Dixon, (Sat Sep 1, 8:36 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jonathan Gray, (Sat Sep 1, 10:22 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Alan Cox, (Sun Sep 2, 6:18 am)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 9:55 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sun Sep 2, 1:09 am)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 1, 9:34 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 9:39 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Casey Dahlin, (Sat Sep 1, 9:58 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jason Dixon, (Sat Sep 1, 10:44 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Al Viro, (Sat Sep 1, 10:06 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 1, 9:43 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Luis R. Rodriguez, (Sat Sep 1, 9:42 pm)
Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Al Viro, (Sat Sep 1, 9:53 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 7:29 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 8:09 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 8:53 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 7:20 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 2, 7:50 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 8:28 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 9:00 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sun Sep 2, 9:57 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 2, 10:11 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Igor Sobrado, (Sun Sep 2, 11:58 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Matthew Jacob, (Sun Sep 2, 2:23 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 2, 9:12 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 2, 8:36 am)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Luis R. Rodriguez, (Sat Sep 1, 7:48 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 8:11 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 5:16 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Constantine A. Murenin, (Sat Sep 1, 5:51 pm)
Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 1, 6:06 pm)