Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival

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Date: Friday, September 21, 2007 - 8:27 am

Rob Landley wrote:
All the people who don't have the need will come up with reasons not to 
do it. Like "saves too little" and "makes debugging hard" (these are the 
people who don't realize that having no output device and human in the 
loop makes it hard, too). How about "too complex, would confuse users," 
that's popular.

I could go into a list of thing people want to take out or keep out for 
reasons which boil down to "I don't need it" or "leaving it out only 
bothers lazy users who don't want to convert to {flavor_of_the_month}."

People with really small systems care about every few bytes, people with 
big systems don't understand (in general) about people with small 
systems. The best developers do, fortunately, and will probably approve 
of kernel liposuction.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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[Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Tim Bird, (Wed Sep 19, 2:03 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Thu Sep 20, 4:38 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Arnd Bergmann, (Thu Sep 27, 3:00 am)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Thu Sep 27, 8:06 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Indan Zupancic, (Thu Sep 27, 12:35 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Arnd Bergmann, (Thu Sep 27, 6:21 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Bernd Petrovitsch, (Fri Sep 28, 4:39 am)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Jörn, (Sun Sep 30, 4:37 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Bill Davidsen, (Fri Sep 21, 8:27 am)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Tim Bird, (Thu Sep 20, 5:58 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Joe Perches, (Thu Sep 20, 6:14 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Thu Sep 20, 8:28 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Joe Perches, (Thu Sep 20, 8:03 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Thu Sep 20, 7:11 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Indan Zupancic, (Thu Sep 20, 5:26 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Thu Sep 20, 7:18 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Kyle Moffett, (Fri Sep 21, 5:34 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Joe Perches, (Fri Sep 21, 6:05 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Kyle Moffett, (Fri Sep 21, 6:57 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Joe Perches, (Fri Sep 21, 1:45 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Fri Sep 21, 7:05 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Joe Perches, (Fri Sep 21, 7:08 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Indan Zupancic, (Thu Sep 20, 7:06 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Sam Ravnborg, (Fri Sep 21, 2:29 am)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 24, 2:13 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Wed Sep 26, 2:24 am)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Joe Perches, (Thu Sep 20, 4:16 pm)
Re: [Celinux-dev] Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Geert Uytterhoeven, (Tue Sep 25, 7:43 am)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Alexey Dobriyan, (Thu Sep 20, 3:58 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Thu Sep 20, 6:02 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Jared Hulbert, (Thu Sep 20, 5:22 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Rob Landley, (Thu Sep 20, 6:53 pm)
Re: printk proposal - (was Linux-tiny project revival), Alexey Dobriyan, (Fri Sep 21, 3:07 pm)
Re: printk proposal - (was Linux-tiny project revival), Rob Landley, (Fri Sep 21, 4:53 pm)
Re: [Celinux-dev] [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Andrew Morton, (Wed Sep 19, 5:28 pm)
Re: [Celinux-dev] [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Michael Opdenacker, (Wed Sep 19, 6:38 pm)
Re: [Celinux-dev] [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Andy Whitcroft, (Thu Sep 20, 5:10 am)
Re: Monster switch for small size (was Linux-tiny revival), Christian MICHON, (Fri Sep 21, 2:35 am)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Andi Kleen, (Wed Sep 19, 3:28 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Tim Bird, (Wed Sep 19, 3:41 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Tim Bird, (Wed Sep 19, 5:29 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Michael Opdenacker, (Wed Sep 19, 6:29 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Christian MICHON, (Wed Sep 19, 3:01 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Luis R. Rodriguez, (Wed Sep 19, 2:47 pm)
Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival, Tim Bird, (Wed Sep 19, 3:31 pm)