Re: Wasting our Freedom

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From: Krzysztof Halasa
Date: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 6:39 am

Hannah Schroeter <hannah@schlund.de> writes:


Such as a patch? Hardly IMHO, a patch is not a work but an output
of an automated tool. The copyright is not about fragments of works.

You may add a copyright _notice_, not a copyright (a right).
The author of a derived work automatically has copyright to the
whole derived work, not only to the "fragments" he has created.
MS Windows is "Copyright Microsoft", not "Microsoft and others".

You can add any licence (not copyright, as it's automatic) to your
(derived or not) work. If it's a derived work, you must comply with
the original licence(s).

Of course, the original work is copyrighted by its original author
and licenced under its original conditions, and nobody is able to
change that.

Now, you don't need a licence from the original author to use
the derived work. The author of the derived work only needs
a licence from the original author to create a derived work.
Do you think Microsoft users have licences from authors of
the works MS Windows etc. are based on? :-)

You do need a licence from the original author to use the original
work, e.g. unmodified original work distributed by third party.
I.e., you don't need a licence to use MS Windows from the retail
shop, you need it from MS.

Is it that hard to understand?


Where exactly?
Have you seen MS EULA maybe?
Such requirement would be impossible to fullfit.


Look at MS EULA, does MS Windows in your opinion have such a mixed
licence too? :-)
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Krzysztof Halasa
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Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Sun Sep 16, 11:48 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 12:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 12:59 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 1:32 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Sun Sep 16, 1:39 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 2:11 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 16, 2:12 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 2:13 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 3:19 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 3:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 4:09 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Sun Sep 16, 4:16 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, david, (Sun Sep 16, 4:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 5:01 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 5:29 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 5:57 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 16, 6:19 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 6:35 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 6:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 6:44 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 6:51 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Sun Sep 16, 8:00 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 8:32 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 8:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 10:33 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Sun Sep 16, 11:43 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 17, 12:36 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Helge Hafting, (Mon Sep 17, 12:47 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 2:10 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 2:20 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Henning Brauer, (Mon Sep 17, 2:30 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 4:18 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 4:20 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Mon Sep 17, 4:50 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 4:57 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 5:06 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 5:08 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 5:10 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 5:19 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 5:36 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Claudio Jeker, (Mon Sep 17, 5:55 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 5:57 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 6:15 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hans-Jürgen Koch, (Mon Sep 17, 6:19 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Sean, (Mon Sep 17, 6:27 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Newall, (Mon Sep 17, 6:28 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 6:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 6:34 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 6:38 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 6:39 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 6:42 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 8:15 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 8:20 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 8:25 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 8:38 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 9:18 am)
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Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 11:02 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 11:32 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Claudio Jeker, (Mon Sep 17, 12:23 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 12:27 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 12:50 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 1:35 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 1:43 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 2:09 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Ingo Schwarze, (Mon Sep 17, 2:39 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Mon Sep 17, 3:06 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 4:35 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 4:47 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Ingo Schwarze, (Mon Sep 17, 4:56 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 5:03 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Al Viro, (Mon Sep 17, 5:44 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Henning Brauer, (Tue Sep 18, 2:00 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Helge Hafting, (Tue Sep 18, 4:17 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Gilles Chehade, (Tue Sep 18, 4:28 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 4:29 am)
Re: Wasting our Bandwidth, Xavier Bestel, (Tue Sep 18, 5:04 am)
Re: Wasting our Bandwidth, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 5:24 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Tue Sep 18, 5:56 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, frantisek holop, (Tue Sep 18, 6:58 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Denis Doroshenko, (Tue Sep 18, 8:47 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, frantisek holop, (Tue Sep 18, 8:55 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 10:15 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Tue Sep 18, 11:55 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Sep 18, 12:04 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Sep 18, 12:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Tue Sep 18, 12:51 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Martin Schlemmer, (Tue Sep 18, 3:24 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Tue Sep 18, 4:34 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Alan Cox, (Tue Sep 18, 5:24 pm)