RE: Wasting our Freedom

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Date: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 7:57 am

> On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 03:19:41PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:


No, I'm sorry, this is not correct. The GPL gives you the right to remove
the BSD license. Read the GPL and please tell me where it says you must keep
the BSD license notice intact.



It doesn't matter that the BSD license prohibits it, its terms only apply to
you if you agree to it. Generally, you agree to it implicitly by doing
something that only the BSD license could give you the right to do, such as
modify or distribute a BSD-only work.

But in the case of a dual-licensed work, you can obtain the right to modify
or distribute it from the GPL. In that case, you can totally ignore anything
the BSD license says. You are under no obligation to comply with it.

As for copyright law prohibiting it, the GPL is quite clear about allowing
it. The GPL permits all modifications except those it specifically restricts
(and none of those rules would prohibit removing a BSD license). In fact,
the GPL specifically prohibits the imposition of "additional restrictions".

Copyright law permits you to impose all kinds of restrictions on what people
can do with your work. However, when you offer a work under the GPL, you
lose any right to insist that the work remain in any particular form or
contain any particular elements, except the GPL itself. The GPL grants
modification rights limited only by the restrictions in the GPL itself.

You cannot use any form of subterfuge to get something into a GPL-compatible
file that I cannot remove, by any means. (Other than the GPL license, of
course.) See GPL section 6.

DS


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Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Sun Sep 16, 2:48 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 4:32 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Sun Sep 16, 11:00 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 8:10 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 17, 1:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Mon Sep 17, 2:43 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 17, 3:36 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 11:32 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 3:59 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Sun Sep 16, 4:39 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 6:19 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 7:20 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 7:57 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 8:06 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 8:36 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 5:13 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 5:20 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 9:38 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 11:25 am)
Wasting My Time (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Eric Furman, (Mon Sep 17, 1:14 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 12:18 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 11:15 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 11:38 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 2:02 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 2:32 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 3:27 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 6:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 7:09 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 8:29 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 16, 9:19 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 9:44 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 9:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 8:57 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 9:35 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 9:51 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Sun Sep 16, 11:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 16, 5:12 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Claudio Jeker, (Mon Sep 17, 8:55 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 9:34 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Claudio Jeker, (Mon Sep 17, 3:23 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 4:43 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Henning Brauer, (Tue Sep 18, 5:00 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 7:29 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Tue Sep 18, 8:56 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Tue Sep 18, 7:34 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Alan Cox, (Tue Sep 18, 8:24 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Gilles Chehade, (Tue Sep 18, 7:28 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 1:15 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, frantisek holop, (Tue Sep 18, 11:55 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Denis Doroshenko, (Tue Sep 18, 11:47 am)
Re: Wasting our Bandwidth, Xavier Bestel, (Tue Sep 18, 8:04 am)
Re: Wasting our Bandwidth, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 8:24 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Mon Sep 17, 6:06 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 7:47 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Tue Sep 18, 2:55 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Martin Schlemmer, (Tue Sep 18, 6:24 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Sep 18, 3:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Sep 18, 3:04 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Tue Sep 18, 3:51 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 7:18 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 9:39 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 11:20 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 4:35 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 5:09 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 7:35 pm)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 8:03 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Al Viro, (Mon Sep 17, 8:44 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 3:50 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 8:19 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Sun Sep 16, 7:16 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Helge Hafting, (Mon Sep 17, 3:47 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Mon Sep 17, 7:50 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Helge Hafting, (Tue Sep 18, 7:17 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Newall, (Mon Sep 17, 9:28 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, , (Sun Sep 16, 7:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Ingo Schwarze, (Mon Sep 17, 7:56 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Henning Brauer, (Mon Sep 17, 5:30 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 8:57 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Ingo Schwarze, (Mon Sep 17, 5:39 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 9:15 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Sean, (Mon Sep 17, 9:27 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 9:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 9:42 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hans-Jürgen Koch, (Mon Sep 17, 9:19 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 8:01 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 5:11 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 5:10 am)
RE: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 8:08 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, frantisek holop, (Tue Sep 18, 9:58 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 3:40 pm)