Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

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To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...>
Cc: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@...>, video4linux-list@redhat.com <video4linux-list@...>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org <linux-kernel@...>, akpm@linux-foundation.org <akpm@...>, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org <linux-dvb@...>
Date: Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 12:58 pm

On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:04:42AM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

Yes, as a newbie observer on the v4l list, the answer is obvious to me,
at last, and the reason is not entirely technical. I can't read so many
bogus arguments on so few lines without reacting.

Rephrasing Mauro:

"Not a single developer out of a few SEEMS to believe that it is the BETTER
approach, so since the FEW represent ALL media developers in the world, and
since there is only ONE RIGHT way to do things, and since the GROUP is
always RIGHT and always knows better than the individual, then YOU're WRONG
and I'm right. Conform to the group and do as the group says, whatever the
consequences!"

Geeks are decidedly as prone as others to blindly accept travelling on the
slippery road of herd mentality and "obvious" conclusions based on
appearances. Is this OPEN source development or a dictatorship or what?

So in the end Mauro will be right. And Markus will continue to develop and
defend his stuff as HE sees fit. He knows his own work better than anyone
else. It will be HIS way or nothing with his own stuff, it's his inalienable
right.

And don't be naive, if there's no solution more viable than Markus' one,
then the latter will eventually be widely adopted somehow, sometime,
whatever the amount of grumbling from the establishment. No
dictatorship/forced consensus can decide future's direction, nor improve
its already low own viability.

Cheers,

Bernard.
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Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Wed Sep 12, 7:10 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Johannes Stezenbach, (Thu Sep 13, 9:13 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Thu Sep 13, 10:12 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Thu Sep 13, 11:50 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Thu Sep 13, 12:08 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Steven Toth, (Thu Sep 13, 4:36 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Alan Cox, (Fri Sep 14, 8:10 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, hermann pitton, (Thu Sep 13, 8:49 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Thu Sep 13, 7:17 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Alan Cox, (Fri Sep 14, 9:52 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 12:18 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Jelle Foks, (Tue Sep 18, 4:19 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Tue Sep 18, 6:56 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Alan Cox, (Tue Sep 18, 7:00 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Tue Sep 18, 4:55 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Steven Toth, (Thu Sep 13, 9:03 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 2:38 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Johannes Stezenbach, (Fri Sep 14, 7:38 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 12:36 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Johannes Stezenbach, (Fri Sep 14, 4:43 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 9:49 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Johannes Stezenbach, (Sat Sep 15, 9:34 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Steven Toth, (Sat Sep 15, 10:56 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Sat Sep 15, 4:52 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Fri Sep 14, 11:09 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Sat Sep 15, 8:59 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 9:29 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Johannes Stezenbach, (Sat Sep 15, 9:16 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Sat Sep 15, 9:38 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Sat Sep 15, 10:04 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Bernard Jungen, (Sat Sep 15, 12:58 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Mon Sep 17, 4:46 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Hans Verkuil, (Sun Sep 16, 7:30 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Sat Sep 15, 10:33 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Sat Sep 15, 10:45 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Fri Sep 14, 9:49 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Fri Sep 14, 1:32 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 1:46 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Fri Sep 14, 2:29 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Michael Krufky, (Fri Sep 14, 3:20 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Aidan Thornton, (Fri Sep 14, 5:07 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Fri Sep 14, 5:53 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Fri Sep 14, 5:16 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Fri Sep 14, 3:57 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Joerg Roedel, (Fri Sep 14, 5:15 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Fri Sep 14, 8:00 am)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Joerg Roedel, (Fri Sep 14, 12:13 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Fri Sep 14, 12:56 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Joerg Roedel, (Fri Sep 14, 1:40 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 12:09 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Alex Deucher, (Fri Sep 14, 2:52 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Fri Sep 14, 2:59 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Alex Deucher, (Fri Sep 14, 3:38 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Thu Sep 13, 12:22 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Markus Rechberger, (Thu Sep 13, 12:32 pm)
Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner, Manu Abraham, (Thu Sep 13, 12:52 pm)