Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

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To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@...>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@...>, James Bottomley <james.bottomley@...>, <linux-scsi@...>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@...>, Andi Kleen <andi@...>, Folkert van Heusden <folkert@...>, <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 10:43 am

On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:

Kconfig is a user interface, so perfect is what is best for the
kconfig users.


The first question is whether it's for actual SCSI hardware [1] or for 
the block layer functionality which the SCSI subsystem has become.
The mixture of these two is the root of much user confusion.

With the help text "The error messages regarding your SCSI hardware will 
be easier to understand if you say Y here" a user wouldn't have expected 
to see you using it in a firewire driver. But unless I miss anything, 
the setting of SCSI_SCAN_ASYNC does only affect "real" SCSI hardware.

If you check each option and place it either in the generic storage menu 
or the SCSI lowlevel menu this would fix much possible user confusion.

But these are relatively unimportant options compared to e.g.
USB_STORAGE=y, BLK_DEV_SD=n, which is a misconfiguration many
users run into, so having one menu somewhere with these advanced 
options should be enough.


cu
Adrian

[1] SCSI as in "sold as SCSI"

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sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Folkert van Heusden, (Fri Sep 7, 8:48 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Andi Kleen, (Sat Sep 8, 12:07 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, James Bottomley, (Sun Sep 9, 5:00 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Andi Kleen, (Sun Sep 9, 5:03 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 9, 5:11 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Sep 12, 6:46 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 10:54 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Adrian Bunk, (Fri Sep 14, 11:15 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Paul Rolland, (Sat Sep 15, 4:04 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 15, 4:25 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Paul Rolland, (Sat Sep 15, 9:00 am)
[PATCH] x86_64: configure HPET_EMULATE_RTC automatically, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 15, 1:13 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 11:37 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Adrian Bunk, (Fri Sep 14, 12:16 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 12:50 pm)
[RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 2:02 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 4:20 pm)
[PATCH update] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 5:22 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Sam Ravnborg, (Fri Sep 14, 3:00 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Adrian Bunk, (Fri Sep 14, 3:06 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 4:01 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 15, 7:40 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 15, 8:24 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Maciej W. Rozycki, (Mon Sep 17, 7:29 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Mon Sep 17, 10:46 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 15, 8:50 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 15, 9:20 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 15, 9:53 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 15, 10:11 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 15, 10:43 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 15, 11:27 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 15, 12:42 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 15, 11:44 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Sep 15, 12:23 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz..., (Sat Sep 15, 12:52 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Sep 15, 3:17 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz..., (Sat Sep 15, 4:54 pm)
[PATCH] SCSI: trailing whitespace in Kconfig, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 2:04 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Andi Kleen, (Sun Sep 9, 5:22 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Bauke Jan Douma, (Tue Sep 11, 4:16 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, James Bottomley, (Sun Sep 9, 5:39 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Mon Sep 10, 2:38 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Rene Herman, (Mon Sep 10, 8:43 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Randy Dunlap, (Sat Sep 8, 12:50 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Andi Kleen, (Sat Sep 8, 2:13 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 8, 2:30 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Andi Kleen, (Sat Sep 8, 3:14 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 8, 3:32 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Matthew Wilcox, (Sat Sep 8, 12:53 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Randy Dunlap, (Fri Sep 7, 11:35 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Helge Hafting, (Thu Sep 13, 4:50 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Goswin von Brederlow, (Fri Sep 14, 12:42 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 14, 2:44 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Sam Ravnborg, (Sat Sep 8, 4:43 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Folkert van Heusden, (Fri Sep 7, 11:59 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Fri Sep 7, 12:21 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Folkert van Heusden, (Fri Sep 7, 7:05 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 8, 3:05 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Randy Dunlap, (Sat Sep 8, 12:31 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 8, 12:44 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Randy Dunlap, (Sat Sep 8, 12:48 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 8, 3:45 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Sep 8, 3:29 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Stefan Richter, (Sat Sep 8, 3:56 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Jan Engelhardt, (Fri Sep 7, 10:40 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Folkert van Heusden, (Fri Sep 7, 10:58 am)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Krzysztof Halasa, (Fri Sep 7, 3:38 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Jan Engelhardt, (Fri Sep 7, 7:02 pm)
Re: sata &amp; scsi suggestion for make menuconfig, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Sep 8, 3:27 am)