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From: Ian Kent
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RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 10:09 pm
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Trond Myklebust wrote:
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> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 16:44 -0700, Hua Zhong wrote: > > > How is the NFS client to know that these directories are disjoint, or > > > that no-one will ever create a hard link from one directory to another? > > > To my knowledge, the only way to ensure this is to put them on > > > different disk partitions. > > > > > > I don't know if all Unix systems have this issue, but I have been told > > > that Solaris at least has it. > > > > Does Solaris enforces this "mount with same options" as default? > > No. Solaris defaults to breaking cache consistency. > > > > > "working" as in "I can mount the directory and do my work". And there > > > > has never been any problems as far as I know. > > > > > > That is too narrow a definition: the minimum should be "everyone can > > > mount their directories and do their work". Your particular setup may > > > be safe, but that is why we have overrides: the default should be for the > > > kernel to be conservative, and to _tell_ users what it thinks is wrong. > > > > Every engineer in our organization mounts it too. No problem until now. > > I believe I've already explained why that isn't a sufficient metric. > What is your point? > > > It's not very conservative to suddenly change default behavior and break > > autofs mounts. There is not even one kernel message that "_tells_ user why > > it thinks it's wrong". It just silently fails. > > No it doesn't. It reports an error code to the caller. If autofs is > failing silently, then that is a bug in autofs: mount will report the > error to the user.
Actually, yes, it looks like I'm not logging mount errors at the correct log level. Oops. Ian -
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recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Thu Aug 30, 2:07 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Thu Aug 30, 3:37 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Thu Aug 30, 3:47 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Thu Aug 30, 4:22 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Thu Aug 30, 4:30 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Thu Aug 30, 4:37 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Thu Aug 30, 4:44 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Andrew Morton
, (Thu Aug 30, 6:24 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Linus Torvalds
, (Thu Aug 30, 8:49 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Thu Aug 30, 8:57 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Thu Aug 30, 9:31 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
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RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Linus Torvalds
, (Thu Aug 30, 9:38 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Thu Aug 30, 9:44 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Thu Aug 30, 9:47 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Thu Aug 30, 9:57 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Linus Torvalds
, (Thu Aug 30, 9:59 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Thu Aug 30, 10:04 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Ian Kent
, (Thu Aug 30, 10:09 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Linus Torvalds
, (Thu Aug 30, 10:16 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Thu Aug 30, 10:24 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Ian Kent
, (Thu Aug 30, 10:38 pm)
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, (Fri Aug 31, 12:40 am)
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, Frank van Maarseveen
, (Fri Aug 31, 1:14 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Frank van Maarseveen
, (Fri Aug 31, 1:28 am)
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, (Fri Aug 31, 1:51 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Martin Knoblauch
, (Fri Aug 31, 1:54 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Ian Kent
, (Fri Aug 31, 2:05 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Fri Aug 31, 5:11 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Frank van Maarseveen
, (Fri Aug 31, 6:12 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Fri Aug 31, 6:50 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Frank van Maarseveen
, (Fri Aug 31, 7:42 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Fri Aug 31, 9:21 am)
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, Linus Torvalds
, (Fri Aug 31, 9:43 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Linus Torvalds
, (Fri Aug 31, 10:01 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Fri Aug 31, 11:47 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Fri Aug 31, 12:03 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Fri Aug 31, 12:13 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Hua Zhong
, (Fri Aug 31, 12:35 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Bill Davidsen
, (Sat Sep 1, 5:58 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Jakob Oestergaard
, (Mon Sep 3, 6:20 am)
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, Martin Knoblauch
, (Mon Sep 3, 6:43 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, David Howells
, (Tue Sep 4, 12:51 am)
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, David Howells
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, Bill Davidsen
, (Wed Sep 5, 5:35 am)
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Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, David Howells
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Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
, Trond Myklebust
, (Wed Sep 5, 8:50 am)
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