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To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@...>, Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@...>
Cc: Hua Zhong <hzhong@...>, 'Linux Kernel Mailing List' <linux-kernel@...>, <akpm@...>
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 11:49 pm

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Trond Myklebust wrote:

No, Trond.

That commit gets reverted or fixed. It's a regression, and your theories 
that it's "better" that way are obviously broken.

It's obviously broken because you seem to say that you know better, even 
though you also admit that:

  "How is the NFS client to know that these directories are disjoint, or
   that no-one will ever create a hard link from one directory to another? 
   To my knowledge, the only way to ensure this is to put them on 
   different disk partitions."

the point being that you just disallowed people from doing things that are 
sane but _potentially_ dangerous. That's now how we work. The UNIX way sis 
to give people rope - if you cannot *prove* that what they are doing is 
wrong, then you damn well better not disallow it.

No regressions, Trond. Especially not for stuff that used to work, was 
used, and that could be sanely expected to work (which this *definitely*
sounds like).

Please send in a fix. If the fix involves making "nosharecache" the 
default, then that is better than making policy decisions like this in the 
kernel. The kernel should do what the user asks and not put in unnecessary 
roadblocks.

Hua - that said, I don't actually see why the commit you bisected to has 
anything to do with the issue being discussed. Can you double-check that 
it's literally that particular commit that breaks for you (you could try 
just reverting that commit).

			Linus
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recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Thu Aug 30, 5:07 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Frank van Maarseveen, (Fri Aug 31, 4:14 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Ian Kent, (Fri Aug 31, 5:05 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Thu Aug 30, 6:37 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Aug 30, 11:49 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 12:21 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Bill Davidsen, (Sat Sep 1, 8:58 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, David Howells, (Tue Sep 4, 3:54 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Ian Kent, (Wed Sep 5, 8:44 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Wed Sep 5, 12:26 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, David Howells, (Wed Sep 5, 11:37 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Wed Sep 5, 11:50 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Ian Kent, (Thu Sep 6, 1:23 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Sep 5, 8:35 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, David Howells, (Wed Sep 5, 11:34 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Fri Aug 31, 2:47 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 3:13 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Fri Aug 31, 3:35 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Aug 31, 1:01 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, David Howells, (Tue Sep 4, 4:35 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Sep 4, 5:04 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, David Howells, (Tue Sep 4, 4:02 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 3:03 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 12:44 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Aug 31, 12:59 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Ian Kent, (Fri Aug 31, 1:38 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Martin Knoblauch, (Fri Aug 31, 4:54 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 1:04 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Fri Aug 31, 1:24 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Aug 31, 1:16 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Jakob Oestergaard, (Fri Aug 31, 3:40 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Frank van Maarseveen, (Fri Aug 31, 4:28 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Aug 31, 4:07 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 8:11 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, David Howells, (Tue Sep 4, 3:51 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Frank van Maarseveen, (Fri Aug 31, 9:12 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 9:50 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Frank van Maarseveen, (Fri Aug 31, 10:42 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Jakob Oestergaard, (Fri Aug 31, 4:51 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Aug 31, 12:43 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Jakob Oestergaard, (Mon Sep 3, 9:20 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Martin Knoblauch, (Mon Sep 3, 9:43 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Thu Aug 30, 11:57 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Andrew Morton, (Thu Aug 30, 9:24 pm)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 12:33 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Thu Aug 30, 6:47 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Thu Aug 30, 7:22 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Thu Aug 30, 7:30 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Thu Aug 30, 7:37 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Thu Aug 30, 7:44 pm)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 12:31 am)
Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Matthias Schniedermeyer, (Fri Aug 31, 3:50 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Ian Kent, (Fri Aug 31, 1:09 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Aug 31, 12:38 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Trond Myklebust, (Fri Aug 31, 12:57 am)
RE: recent nfs change causes autofs regression, Hua Zhong, (Fri Aug 31, 12:47 am)
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