Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier

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To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@...>, <vgoyal@...>, Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@...>, <k-miyoshi@...>, Bernhard Walle <bwalle@...>, <kexec@...>, <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Friday, August 3, 2007 - 3:10 am

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

My current take on the situation.

There are 4 different cases we care about.
- Trivial in kernel message failure reports. (Oops, backtraces and the like)
- Crash dumps.
- Debuggers.
- kernel Probes.

The in kernel failure messages seem to be doing a good job and are
reasonably simple to maintain.

For crash dumping we have sufficient infrastructure in the kernel now in
the kexec on panic work, and it is simpler and more reliable then the
previous attempts.  Although those kernel code paths could be made
simpler yet and probably should be.

Only when it comes to debuggers does it seem we don't have something
we can generally settle on and agree on.

All I know is that any set of code that wants to be common
infrastructure that makes the assumption that the kernel is mostly
not broken is not interesting for use when things are fully automated.
Because it fails to work in real world failure cases.  Those things
only work in the artificial testing environments of developers.

Right now I have seen so little to seriously address these real
world concerns in suggests or patches for some kind of infrastructure
that I'm tired of discussing it.  I admit I haven't seen or heard of those
patches either but even their description sounds non-interesting.

Eric
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[patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Thu Jul 19, 8:15 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Jul 26, 10:07 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Thu Jul 26, 11:32 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Jul 26, 11:34 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Thu Jul 26, 11:44 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Jul 26, 11:47 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Thu Jul 26, 11:54 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Thu Jul 26, 7:28 pm)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Mon Jul 30, 5:16 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Jul 30, 9:42 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Tue Jul 31, 1:55 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Jul 31, 2:53 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Wed Aug 1, 5:26 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Aug 1, 6:00 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Thu Aug 2, 7:28 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier , Keith Owens, (Fri Aug 3, 12:05 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Sun Aug 5, 7:07 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Tue Aug 14, 4:34 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Tue Aug 14, 4:37 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Tue Aug 14, 9:24 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Thu Aug 16, 5:26 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Fri Aug 17, 6:56 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Jay Lan, (Tue Aug 21, 9:18 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Wed Aug 22, 11:56 pm)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Jay Lan, (Thu Aug 23, 1:34 pm)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Tue Aug 21, 9:21 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Tue Aug 21, 3:45 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Vivek Goyal, (Wed Aug 22, 11:52 pm)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Aug 16, 5:45 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Tue Aug 14, 4:48 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Tue Aug 14, 4:53 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Andrew Morton, (Fri Aug 3, 2:25 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Aug 3, 3:10 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier , Keith Owens, (Fri Aug 3, 2:34 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Andrew Morton, (Fri Aug 3, 3:37 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Takenori Nagano, (Thu Aug 2, 4:11 am)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Jul 26, 12:14 pm)
Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Jul 26, 12:21 pm)