Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

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From: Satyam Sharma
Date: Friday, August 17, 2007 - 5:50 am

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:


Just below. What you wrote:


"It is always a barrier because, at the lowest level, anything that sleeps
is defined to always be a barrier".



I didn't quite understand what you said here, so I'll tell what I think:

* foo() is a compiler barrier if the definition of foo() is invisible to
  the compiler at a callsite.

* foo() is also a compiler barrier if the definition of foo() includes
  a barrier, and it is inlined at the callsite.

If the above is wrong, or if there's something else at play as well,
do let me know.


Curiously, that's the second time you've said "sleeping is defined to
be a (compiler) barrier". How does the compiler even know if foo() is
a function that "sleeps"? Do compilers have some notion of "sleeping"
to ensure they automatically assume a compiler barrier whenever such
a function is called? Or are you saying that the compiler can see the
barrier() inside said function ... nopes, you're saying quite the
opposite below.



I think I do, why not? Would appreciate if you could elaborate on this.


Satyam
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Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Tue Aug 14, 3:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Tue Aug 14, 3:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Paul E. McKenney, (Wed Aug 15, 10:33 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Wed Aug 15, 11:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Paul E. McKenney, (Wed Aug 15, 11:45 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Paul E. McKenney, (Wed Aug 15, 12:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 12:59 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Wed Aug 15, 1:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Wed Aug 15, 1:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Wed Aug 15, 2:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 5:26 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 5:40 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 5:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 5:59 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 6:41 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Wed Aug 15, 7:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 7:15 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Aug 15, 7:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Thu Aug 16, 11:54 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Thu Aug 16, 12:39 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Thu Aug 16, 1:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Thu Aug 16, 1:50 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Thu Aug 16, 2:00 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Paul E. McKenney, (Thu Aug 16, 10:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Satyam Sharma, (Fri Aug 17, 5:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 10:41 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Fri Aug 17, 11:54 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Paul E. McKenney, (Fri Aug 17, 11:56 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Paul E. McKenney, (Fri Aug 17, 12:49 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 3:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 3:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 3:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 3:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 4:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 5:04 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 7:15 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Fri Aug 17, 10:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Mon Aug 20, 3:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Tue Aug 21, 7:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Fri Aug 24, 10:15 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Sep 10, 10:02 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 10, 11:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 10, 11:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 10, 2:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently ac ..., Segher Boessenkool, (Mon Sep 10, 7:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Document non-semantics of atomic_read() and at ..., Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 12:35 pm)