Re: CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1)

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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...>, <david@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, <linux-acpi@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Pavel Machek <pavel@...>
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 3:30 am

On Thursday 26 July 2007 16:55, Linus Torvalds wrote:

...

That three-liner will crash ACPI+SMP-HOTPLUG_CPU kernels on resume.
While cpu0 is in a known state when the power goes out,
without HOTPLUG_CPU the other cpus (and the memory they touch)
are in an indeterminate state.

Yes, we could invent a new mechanism to offline the other CPUS
before suspend and online them upon resume,
but that is what the more general HOTPLUG_CPU code does for us already.
Indeed, that is pretty much _all_ that HOTPLUG_CPU code does on X86 --
as we don't have any physical hotplug support today beneath
this the logical hotplug support -- you could call it CONFIG_CPU_OFFLINE_ONLINE...


Re: warts, I agree.
My question is why the HOTPLUG_CPU=y code is any different.
When I compile HOTPLUG_CPU out of an x86_64 kernel, the kernel shrinks
by only 18KB, which on a kernel that has ACPI+SMP doesn't seem
like such a big wart.

Yes, now that you brought it up, I think it would be just dandy if
HOTPLUG_CPU simply got folded into SMP -- for I see little to no benefit
to having it as its own config option.

But on the assumption that you are not swayed (when was the last time you were?)
and you still feel strongly we should be able to exclude ACPI_SLEEP and HOTPLUG_CPU
from ACPI+SMP kernels, I'll send you a patch do to that properly.
It will largely restores things to how we had them in 2.6.22.
It looks like a step backwards to me, but you may see it differently.

-Len
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[GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Len Brown, (Wed Jul 25, 12:38 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 25, 2:48 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Len Brown, (Wed Jul 25, 6:51 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Len Brown, (Thu Jul 26, 12:26 am)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jul 26, 2:55 am)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Len Brown, (Thu Jul 26, 1:45 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jul 26, 2:16 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Jeff Garzik, (Thu Jul 26, 2:27 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Len Brown, (Thu Jul 26, 2:18 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jul 26, 2:01 pm)
CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.2..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 26, 3:17 pm)
Re: CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 26, 4:48 pm)
Re: CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2..., Len Brown, (Sat Jul 28, 3:30 am)
Re: CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jul 28, 2:29 pm)
[PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 6:20 am)
[PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 5:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ACPI: delete CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_SLEEP (again), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Aug 1, 6:24 am)
[PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE, Len Brown, (Mon Jul 30, 11:54 pm)
Re: [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE, Pavel Machek, (Tue Jul 31, 2:38 am)
Re: [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE, Len Brown, (Fri Aug 3, 3:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE, Pavel Machek, (Sun Aug 5, 2:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 31, 5:33 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSP..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jul 30, 3:25 am)
[PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 5:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated), Len Brown, (Tue Jul 31, 12:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 31, 5:15 am)
Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (upd..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 31, 6:01 am)
[PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBE..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 5:24 pm)
[PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 8:38 am)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Jul 29, 4:40 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 5:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Jul 29, 5:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 5:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Richard Hughes, (Sun Jul 29, 5:30 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Kyle Moffett, (Sun Jul 29, 10:47 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 6:22 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, Pavel Machek, (Mon Jul 30, 5:26 pm)
[PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBE..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 29, 6:21 am)
[PATCH] ACPI: restore CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP, Len Brown, (Sat Jul 28, 3:33 am)
[2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Adrian Bunk, (Fri Jul 27, 6:25 pm)
Re: [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Jul 27, 6:57 pm)
Re: [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Stefan Richter, (Fri Jul 27, 6:47 pm)
Re: [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Adrian Bunk, (Fri Jul 27, 7:03 pm)
Re: [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Pavel Machek, (Mon Jul 30, 5:18 pm)
Re: [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Stefan Richter, (Sat Jul 28, 4:42 am)
Re: [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Sergio Monteiro Basto, (Sat Jul 28, 10:44 am)
Re: [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jul 28, 2:30 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Gabriel C, (Thu Jul 26, 6:07 am)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Len Brown, (Thu Jul 26, 2:05 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jul 26, 2:18 pm)
Re: defconfig , ACPI=n compile error, Gabriel C, (Thu Jul 26, 2:53 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Gabriel C, (Thu Jul 26, 2:38 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jul 26, 3:02 am)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Jan Dittmer, (Fri Jul 27, 2:26 am)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Andreas Schwab, (Fri Jul 27, 7:50 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Jan Dittmer, (Sat Jul 28, 3:58 am)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Yasha Okshtein, (Tue Jul 31, 9:34 pm)
Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1, Thomas Renninger, (Fri Jul 27, 12:25 pm)