Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19

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To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>
Cc: <linux-kernel@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, Mike Galbraith <efault@...>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...>, Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@...>, Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@...>
Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 5:44 pm

Hi Ingo,

sorry for the long delay, I've spent a week doing non-kernel work.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 12:39:50AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:

Yes, that's what I tried to explain to a guy once : what I like with log(N)
algos is that even with N very large, log(N) is always small, and it's
sometimes faster to perform log(N) fast operations than 1 slow operation.
That's also why I don't care about balanced trees : my unbalanced trees may
hold 32 levels for 32 carefully chosen values, while balanced trees will
have 5 levels (worst difference between both). If I can insert and delete
a node 6 times faster, I always win. And quite frankly, I'm not interested
at the 32 entries case in a tree :-)


Well, I borrowed two 1GB sticks because I discovered that one of my 512MB
had one defect bit. It was finally an opportunity for me to push the test
this far.


indeed :-)


Yes, and in fact, I suspect that we still have an O(N) or O(N^2) pid
allocation algo somewhere (I did not look at the code), because forking
was very very slow when reaching those numbers. I'll possibly check this
when I have some spare time, because it reminds me a trivial source port
ring allocator I wrote a few years ago which was O(1). With 32k pids, it
will only require 64kB RAM for the whole system, and we may even optimize
it to spread CPUs entry points in order to nearly always avoid lock
contention.


I may probably try some time later (not this week-end, I have some 2.4 to
work on).


Yes but I prefer to merge it where it really bring something (I'll have a
look at epoll, I noticed epollctl() was 30% slower under 2.6 with an rbtree
as it is under 2.4 with a hash). Then people will tell me "you're completely
dumb, you could have improved it that way!" and then, once it's optimized to
be always faster than the rbtree, we can switch CFS to it again ;-)


Cheers,
Willy

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[patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jul 6, 1:33 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ed Tomlinson, (Sat Jul 14, 1:19 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Jul 16, 5:17 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ed Tomlinson, (Mon Jul 16, 7:10 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Mike Galbraith, (Sun Jul 15, 1:25 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Jul 16, 4:00 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Sun Jul 15, 8:53 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Mike Galbraith, (Sun Jul 15, 3:46 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Sun Jul 15, 5:11 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Mike Galbraith, (Mon Jul 16, 2:42 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Sat Jul 14, 7:34 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Sat Jul 14, 11:11 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Jul 16, 5:41 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Mon Jul 16, 1:59 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Jul 17, 3:37 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Tue Jul 17, 9:06 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Jul 17, 1:06 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Tue Jul 17, 3:42 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Jul 17, 4:09 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 17, 4:37 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Jul 17, 4:43 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Tue Oct 16, 8:02 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Thu Aug 9, 1:34 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Aug 10, 3:46 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Tue Aug 14, 1:15 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Fri Jul 20, 6:26 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Markus, (Tue Jul 17, 6:03 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Jul 17, 1:13 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Mike Galbraith, (Tue Jul 10, 4:08 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Jul 11, 1:26 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Jul 11, 4:55 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Fri Jul 13, 5:19 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Chuck Ebbert, (Mon Jul 16, 5:34 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Jul 16, 5:55 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ian Kent, (Tue Jul 17, 1:01 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Jul 17, 3:45 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 18, 12:03 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jul 19, 4:16 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Jul 18, 5:37 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jul 19, 10:32 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Thu Jul 19, 10:32 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Thu Jul 19, 1:06 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Thu Jul 19, 1:26 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jul 19, 1:42 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jul 19, 1:17 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jul 19, 1:10 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jul 19, 4:53 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ian Kent, (Wed Jul 18, 1:31 pm)
RE: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, David Schwartz, (Tue Jul 17, 5:16 pm)
RE: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ian Kent, (Wed Jul 18, 1:59 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Jul 18, 3:54 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 18, 1:23 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Jul 18, 9:50 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Chuck Ebbert, (Tue Jul 17, 12:30 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ian Kent, (Tue Jul 17, 7:17 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Jul 17, 1:16 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Tue Jul 17, 9:24 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ian Kent, (Wed Jul 18, 2:19 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Tue Jul 17, 12:22 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Bill Davidsen, (Thu Jul 12, 8:41 am)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Willy Tarreau, (Sun Jul 8, 1:46 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Jul 9, 6:39 pm)
Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19, Willy Tarreau, (Tue Jul 17, 5:44 pm)