Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful

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From: Joseph Fannin
Date: Monday, July 16, 2007 - 5:12 pm

On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 10:35:22AM -0400, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard wrote:

Ok.

Why are all these workarounds preferred, instead of proper suspend
support for swap files?

IOW, what reasons are there to *not* support swap files, other than the
hit-and-miss Linux suspend support?

I brought up the swap file issue to illustrate that writing
hibernation images to files needs to be supported anyway.  Once you
have that, there is no good reason to write the hibernation image to
swap, and several reasons not to.

That my particular problem might be messily worked around isn't really
important in the context of that argument, which no one has responded
to.

(Aside from adding more administrivia to my Macintosh's setup, your
LVM suggestion would prevent the ext3 drivers for Windows and OS X
from working, as they don't do LVM.  This is arguably not Linux's
problem -- but Linux *already supports* a working solution).

--
Joseph Fannin
jfannin@gmail.com

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Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jul 11, 10:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 5:38 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 5:46 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 5:47 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 5:53 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to , Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 6:01 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 8:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Jul 12, 9:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to , david, (Thu Jul 12, 12:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 12:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 12:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 12:45 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Jul 12, 12:49 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Jeremy Maitin-Shepard, (Thu Jul 12, 12:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Jeremy Maitin-Shepard, (Thu Jul 12, 1:05 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jul 12, 1:45 pm)
Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Thu Jul 12, 10:42 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, david, (Thu Jul 12, 10:57 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Thu Jul 12, 11:20 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, david, (Thu Jul 12, 11:27 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Fri Jul 13, 12:15 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Jul 13, 2:17 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Jul 13, 2:29 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Jul 13, 2:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Jul 13, 4:41 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Jul 13, 4:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Jul 13, 5:01 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard, (Fri Jul 13, 7:35 am)
Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Jul 13, 8:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Jul 13, 9:43 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Fri Jul 13, 5:45 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jul 14, 2:24 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jul 14, 2:48 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jul 14, 2:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jul 14, 12:16 pm)
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Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 15, 3:39 am)
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Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jul 15, 4:11 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Sun Jul 15, 10:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jul 16, 5:17 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jul 16, 8:40 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Mon Jul 16, 5:12 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Oliver Neukum, (Mon Jul 16, 10:44 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Mon Jul 16, 11:28 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, david, (Mon Jul 16, 11:42 pm)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Oliver Neukum, (Tue Jul 17, 12:10 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Joseph Fannin, (Tue Jul 17, 12:26 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, david, (Tue Jul 17, 12:34 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 17, 4:46 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 17, 4:52 am)
Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 17, 4:54 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec , Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 17, 4:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec , Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 17, 7:22 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base h ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 24, 8:27 am)