Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues

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From: Alexey Kuznetsov
Date: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 6:25 am

Hello!


You forgot about this again in the next sentence. :-)



RENTRANCY PROTECTION! If does not matter _how_ they run, it matters what
context they preempt and what that context has to make to prevent that
preemption. If you still do not get the point, make
	sed -e 's/local_bh_/local_irq_/'
over net/* and kill softirqs. Everything will work just fine.
Moreover, if you deal only with a single TCP connection
(and sysctl tcp_low_latency is not set), even hardirq latency will not suck,
all real work is done at process context.



I would not say I understood what you wanted to say. :-)

Does my statement about sed match your view? :-)


What I know is that there is no hairy locking dependencies at all
and there is no magic there. Especially, on level of sockets.
The things, which are troublesome are various shared trees/hash tables
(e.g. socket hash tables), which are modified both by incoming network
packets and process contexts.

I have some obscure suspicion that naive dream of "realtime" folks is
to move all those "bad" things to some kernel threads and to talk
to those threads passing some messages. I hope this suspicion is wrong,
otherwise I would say: go to Mach, pals. :-(

Alexey
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[RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Jun 21, 9:00 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Jun 22, 12:09 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 12:51 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Jun 22, 12:53 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 4:23 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 22, 5:32 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 5:38 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 22, 5:58 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 6:12 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Andrew Morton, (Fri Jun 22, 6:13 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 6:26 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 22, 6:35 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Andrew Morton, (Fri Jun 22, 6:41 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 7:00 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Arjan van de Ven, (Fri Jun 22, 7:25 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 22, 7:27 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 22, 7:42 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Arjan van de Ven, (Fri Jun 22, 7:43 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Jun 22, 10:16 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 22, 10:31 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Jun 22, 11:32 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 1:40 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Jun 22, 2:00 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 2:10 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Thomas Gleixner, (Fri Jun 22, 2:13 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Jun 22, 2:37 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Daniel Walker, (Fri Jun 22, 2:53 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 2:59 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 3:09 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 3:15 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Daniel Walker, (Fri Jun 22, 3:15 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Roland Dreier, (Fri Jun 22, 3:43 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 22, 3:44 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 22, 3:58 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Daniel Walker, (Fri Jun 22, 4:28 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Stephen Hemminger, (Fri Jun 22, 10:14 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Dave Airlie, (Fri Jun 22, 11:23 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues , Jonathan Corbet, (Sun Jun 24, 8:16 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues , Steven Rostedt, (Sun Jun 24, 8:52 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Tilman Schmidt, (Mon Jun 25, 9:50 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Mon Jun 25, 10:06 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Mon Jun 25, 12:11 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Stephen Hemminger, (Mon Jun 25, 12:52 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Mon Jun 25, 1:31 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Tilman Schmidt, (Mon Jun 25, 1:50 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Mon Jun 25, 2:03 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Jun 25, 2:15 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Stefan Richter, (Mon Jun 25, 4:36 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues , Jonathan Corbet, (Mon Jun 25, 5:00 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Mon Jun 25, 5:46 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Mon Jun 25, 5:52 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Dan Williams, (Mon Jun 25, 6:46 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Mon Jun 25, 7:01 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Dan Williams, (Mon Jun 25, 7:12 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Jeff Garzik, (Wed Jun 27, 10:48 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jun 28, 2:23 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Jun 28, 5:37 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Thu Jun 28, 7:38 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Jeff Garzik, (Thu Jun 28, 8:17 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Jeff Garzik, (Thu Jun 28, 8:23 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Jun 28, 8:54 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jun 28, 9:00 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Oleg Nesterov, (Thu Jun 28, 9:37 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Jeff Garzik, (Thu Jun 28, 10:26 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Jeff Garzik, (Thu Jun 28, 10:44 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Dan Williams, (Thu Jun 28, 11:02 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Andrew Morton, (Thu Jun 28, 11:19 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Jun 28, 1:07 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Jun 28, 1:46 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Dan Williams, (Thu Jun 28, 2:23 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Dan Williams, (Thu Jun 28, 2:40 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Jun 28, 3:00 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Jun 28, 3:01 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 4:34 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Duncan Sands, (Fri Jun 29, 4:48 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 29, 5:29 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 6:25 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 6:36 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Steven Rostedt, (Fri Jun 29, 6:41 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Jun 29, 6:43 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Duncan Sands, (Fri Jun 29, 7:01 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Jeff Garzik, (Fri Jun 29, 7:24 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Oleg Nesterov, (Fri Jun 29, 7:26 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 7:27 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 8:23 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Oleg Nesterov, (Fri Jun 29, 8:51 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 9:21 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 9:34 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Oleg Nesterov, (Fri Jun 29, 9:52 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Oleg Nesterov, (Fri Jun 29, 10:09 am)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Alexey Kuznetsov, (Fri Jun 29, 12:04 pm)
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Convert all tasklets to workqueues, Oleg Nesterov, (Sat Jun 30, 4:25 am)