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From: Takashi Iwai
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Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
Date: Monday, June 25, 2007 - 3:58 am
At Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:51:59 +0200 (CEST), Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
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> > On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Alan Cox wrote: > > >> Sory Alan but I don't want philosophical/historical discuss. > >> Try to answer on question "ALSA or OSS ?" using *only* technical arguments. > > > > We dropped OSS for ALSA for technical reasons. Those being that ALSA > > - has a better audio API > > How better and where better ? > Please be more verbose :> > > > - is more flexible > > Yes .. if you have API with thin abstracttion (like ALSA has) theoreticaly > you can do more but also by lack of some abstraction normal/usual things > must be implemented in harder way. This was theory .. pracice is completly > diffrent because some applications still provides better soud support > (without interruption) when uses OSS emulation placed on top ALSA layer > than compiled for direct use ALSA API. > > Sound it in not rocket science. In 99.9% cases you need well abstracted > API which ALSA doe not provide and this is real cause why so poor sound > support in Linux applications is. Thin ALSA abstraction is main cause of > avalaibability "tons" of additional soud user space APIs.
I disagree about this. Tons of various user-space APIs would be created anyway. It's the nature of FOSS developemnt. Takashi -
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Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
, Tomasz Kłoczko
, (Sun Jun 24, 10:51 am)
Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
, Alan Cox
, (Sun Jun 24, 12:08 pm)
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, (Sun Jun 24, 11:24 pm)
Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
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