Lennart Sorensen wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 07:28:22PM +0400, Manu Abraham wrote:
>> Well, it is not Tivo alone -- look at http://aminocom.com/ for an
>> example. If you want the kernel sources pay USD 50k and we will provide
>> the kernel sources, was their attitude.
> 
> Hmm, set top boxes are often rented from the cable company rather than
> sold.  Stupid grey area for sure.  At least tivo does give you the
> sources, without demanding more money.  Rather big difference.

I am not talking about the rented aspect, since these STB's are usually
sold rather than rented.

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>> Well, it is not Tivo alone, a large chunk of the vendors do that. The
>> vendors who actually do it the clean way are just few and can be counted
>> very easily.
> 
> Well at least where I work we don't try to lock down the hardware, we do
> contribute our changes and bug fixes to upstream when it makes sense
> (and where our changes wouldn't make sense for upstream, they are still
> clearly included with the sources we have.)  If a customer wants a copy
> of the sources, they will get a nice DVD, although strangely none have
> asked for one yet.


Providing the changes back itself is a great thing altogether.

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