Re: Versioning file system

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From: Ph. Marek
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 1:05 am

On Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

I believe that since some decision must be made *when* a snapshot is taken, 
and that should (has to) be done by userspace, a userspace versioning system 
for doing the backups is the right solution. [1]

Whether there is some filesystem (FUSE or native) that allows online browsing 
of the backups or not is another matter.

Ad 1: What userspace needs is
- atomic snapshots of complete directory trees, independent of mount
  boundaries (across filesystems)
- an atomic way to change the state of the filesystem for the *whole* system.
  For FSVS I'll try to use unionfs for that - populate some new directory with
  my tree of changes, then overmount that over "/", and move the files over
  one-by-one until the new directory is empty. (Must be checked on reboot, of
  course).

These are actually two similar operations (from the atomic view), but have to 
be done in completely different ways ... Maybe there could be some "better" 
interface (if there is one - I don't know what could really be removed from 
the above workflow).


Regards,

Phil
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Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Fri Jun 15, 3:23 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Fri Jun 15, 3:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Fri Jun 15, 3:51 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Fri Jun 15, 3:52 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Kok, Auke, (Fri Jun 15, 3:57 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Fri Jun 15, 3:59 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Fri Jun 15, 4:01 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Fri Jun 15, 4:06 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 1:11 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 1:25 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 2:46 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 3:12 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Johannes Weiner, (Sat Jun 16, 4:20 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Graham Murray, (Sat Jun 16, 4:42 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Mark Williamson, (Sat Jun 16, 6:15 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jörn, (Sat Jun 16, 7:53 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jan Harkes, (Sat Jun 16, 9:49 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 12:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 12:57 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 1:03 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Alan Cox, (Sat Jun 16, 1:08 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jan Harkes, (Sat Jun 16, 1:39 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 1:43 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Dale Amon, (Sat Jun 16, 2:06 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 2:25 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Alan Cox, (Sat Jun 16, 3:17 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 7:18 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 7:39 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Dale Amon, (Sun Jun 17, 3:11 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Andreas Dilger, (Mon Jun 18, 2:45 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Mon Jun 18, 2:54 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jörn, (Mon Jun 18, 3:13 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Mon Jun 18, 7:01 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Mason, (Mon Jun 18, 8:32 am)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Mon Jun 18, 9:16 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Mon Jun 18, 10:29 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeremy Allison, (Mon Jun 18, 10:33 am)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Mon Jun 18, 10:46 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Mon Jun 18, 1:30 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, J. Bruce Fields, (Mon Jun 18, 1:50 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Bron Gondwana, (Mon Jun 18, 4:18 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 11:03 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 12:06 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 12:08 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 12:12 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 12:15 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 12:22 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 1:03 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 1:08 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 1:10 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 1:14 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 1:15 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 1:27 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 1:31 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, John Stoffel, (Tue Jun 19, 1:34 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 1:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Jun 19, 1:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Jun 19, 1:43 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, John Stoffel, (Tue Jun 19, 2:02 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Alan Cox, (Tue Jun 19, 2:50 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, david, (Tue Jun 19, 3:07 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 3:07 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 3:13 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Jun 19, 3:21 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jan Harkes, (Tue Jun 19, 4:07 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 4:12 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Bryan Henderson, (Tue Jun 19, 4:35 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Trond Myklebust, (Tue Jun 19, 5:27 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 10:00 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Ph. Marek, (Wed Jun 20, 1:05 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Jun 20, 1:34 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Bryan Henderson, (Wed Jun 20, 10:04 am)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Jun 20, 10:10 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Wed Jun 20, 10:33 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Erik Mouw, (Wed Jul 4, 10:32 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 4, 1:47 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, John Stoffel, (Thu Jul 5, 6:57 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Mason, (Thu Jul 5, 7:23 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Erik Mouw, (Thu Jul 5, 10:55 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Erik Mouw, (Thu Jul 5, 10:57 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Sorin Faibish, (Sat Sep 29, 10:44 am)