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To: Jörn <joern@...>, alan <alan@...>, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>, Jack Stone <jack@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <linux-fsdevel@...>, <akpm@...>, <viro@...>
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 - 6:13 am

On Mon, 18 June 2007 03:45:24 -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:

There definitely seems to be an inflation of new filesystems.  These
days all the cool kids either write their own virtualization layer or
their own filesystem.  No idea why that happened, two years ago
filesystems seemed old and boring.


Consider me sceptical.  Here is my personal opinion when looking at the
list:

Chunkfs, tilefs - research projects.
At this moment nobody knows whether either of the approaches works or
not.  Once that is proven, the tricks should get incorporated in
existing filesystems.

Dave Chinner seems to be working on similar stuff for XFS already.
Assuming he can deliver, a chunked/tiled/... XFS is useful while chunkfs
and tilefs are mostly educational.  It doesn't have to be XFS, Ext4
would do just as well.

Logfs - flash filesystem.
Btrfs - disk filesystem.
Disk optimization comes down to avoiding seeks like the plague.  Flash
requires garbage collection, wear leveling and avoiding writes like the
plague.

It is quite unlikely that either filesystem will do well in the other's
domain.  At least some amount of code will remain seperate.  Subsets of
code might be useful for both.  Collaboration on that level would be
useful.

Jörn

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Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Fri Jun 15, 6:23 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Kok, Auke, (Fri Jun 15, 6:57 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Fri Jun 15, 7:01 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Johannes Weiner, (Sat Jun 16, 7:20 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Fri Jun 15, 6:52 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 4:25 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 2:03 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Jun 19, 4:43 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Bryan Henderson, (Tue Jun 19, 7:35 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Trond Myklebust, (Tue Jun 19, 8:27 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Bryan Henderson, (Wed Jun 20, 1:04 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Wed Jun 20, 1:33 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Jun 20, 1:10 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Jun 20, 1:00 am)
Re: Versioning file system, , (Tue Jun 19, 6:07 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Jun 19, 6:21 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 6:13 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jan Harkes, (Tue Jun 19, 7:07 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 7:12 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 3:08 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Alan Cox, (Tue Jun 19, 5:50 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 6:07 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Ph. Marek, (Wed Jun 20, 4:05 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 3:12 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Jun 20, 4:34 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 4:10 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 4:14 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 4:31 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Jun 19, 3:15 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 3:22 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 3:06 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 4:03 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 4:08 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, John Stoffel, (Tue Jun 19, 4:34 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Jun 19, 4:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, John Stoffel, (Tue Jun 19, 5:02 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 4:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Snook, (Tue Jun 19, 4:15 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Tue Jun 19, 4:27 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Fri Jun 15, 6:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Fri Jun 15, 6:51 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jörn, (Sat Jun 16, 10:53 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Andreas Dilger, (Mon Jun 18, 5:45 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Sorin Faibish, (Sat Sep 29, 1:44 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Mason, (Mon Jun 18, 11:32 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Bron Gondwana, (Mon Jun 18, 7:18 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Mon Jun 18, 10:01 am)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Mon Jun 18, 12:16 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Mon Jun 18, 1:29 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Erik Mouw, (Wed Jul 4, 1:32 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, John Stoffel, (Thu Jul 5, 9:57 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Erik Mouw, (Thu Jul 5, 1:57 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Chris Mason, (Thu Jul 5, 10:23 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 4, 4:47 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Erik Mouw, (Thu Jul 5, 1:55 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeremy Allison, (Mon Jun 18, 1:33 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Theodore Tso, (Mon Jun 18, 4:30 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, J. Bruce Fields, (Mon Jun 18, 4:50 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Mon Jun 18, 1:46 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jörn, (Mon Jun 18, 6:13 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Mon Jun 18, 5:54 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 4:11 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 5:46 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Graham Murray, (Sat Jun 16, 7:42 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 6:12 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jan Harkes, (Sat Jun 16, 12:49 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 4:03 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Dale Amon, (Sat Jun 16, 5:06 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jan Harkes, (Sat Jun 16, 4:39 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Alan Cox, (Sat Jun 16, 6:17 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Dale Amon, (Sun Jun 17, 6:11 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 10:18 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 10:39 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 4:43 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Alan Cox, (Sat Jun 16, 4:08 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 5:25 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Jack Stone, (Sat Jun 16, 3:38 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, Mark Williamson, (Sat Jun 16, 9:15 am)
Re: Versioning file system, Jeffrey V. Merkey, (Sat Jun 16, 3:57 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, H. Peter Anvin, (Fri Jun 15, 6:59 pm)
Re: Versioning file system, alan, (Fri Jun 15, 7:06 pm)
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