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Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3

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To: David Chinner <dgc@...>
Cc: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...>, Theodore Tso <tytso@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, <clameter@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Mel Gorman <mel@...>, William Lee Irwin III <wli@...>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...>, Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@...>, Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@...>
Date: Monday, May 7, 2007 - 2:43 am

David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com> writes:


You don't manipulate data except for copy_from_user, copy_to_user.
That is easy comparatively to deal with, and certainly doesn't
need vmap.

Meta-data may be trickier, but a lot of that depends on your
individual filesystem and how it organizes it's meta-data.


Potentially.  This is a just a meta data problem, and possibly we
solve it with something like vmap.  Possibly the filesystem won't
cross those kinds of boundaries and we simply never care.

The fact that it is a meta-data problem suggests it isn't the fast
path and we can incur a little more cost.  Especially if we filesytems
with large block sizes are rare.


Bleh.  It has been to many days since I have hacked that code I forgot
which piece that was.  Yes. prepare_to_write is called before
we write to the page cache from the filesystem.

We already handle multiple page writes fairly well in that context.
prepare_write, commit_write may need a page cache but it may not.
All that really needs to happen is that all of the pages that
are part of the block get marked dirty in the page cache so one
won't get written without the others.


Yes, instead of having to redesign the interface between the
fs and the page cache for those filesystems that handle large
blocks we instead need to redesign significant parts of the VM interface.
Shift the redesign work to another group of people and call it a trivial.

That is hardly a gain when it looks like you can have the same effect
with some moderately simple changes to mm/filemap.c and the existing
interfaces.

Eric
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[00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, , (Tue Apr 24, 6:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Maxim Levitsky, (Sat Apr 28, 12:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon Apr 30, 1:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Thu Apr 26, 10:04 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 10:27 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Thu Apr 26, 10:53 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 12:20 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 1:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Theodore Tso, (Fri Apr 27, 12:55 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nicholas Miell, (Fri Apr 27, 1:32 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 2:12 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 2:09 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 4:03 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 9:31 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 12:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 2:56 am)
RE: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Weigert, Daniel, (Mon May 7, 11:17 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri May 4, 12:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 4:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 8:57 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Theodore Tso, (Fri Apr 27, 12:45 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 9:33 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 12:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 12:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 1:27 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 2:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon May 7, 12:06 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 1:29 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 2:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 3:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Tue May 8, 4:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 1:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 2:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 9:44 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:15 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Paul Mackerras, (Fri Apr 27, 7:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 7:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 7:41 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Paul Mackerras, (Fri Apr 27, 8:14 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:42 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 8:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 8:12 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 8:25 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 12:48 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:39 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 10:27 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Sat Apr 28, 4:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 10:50 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 11:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:35 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:19 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:26 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 12:36 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 1:34 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 11:17 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 12:56 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 5:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 5:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 6:21 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 6:25 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 7:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 10:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Sat Apr 28, 1:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 1:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Sat Apr 28, 2:24 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 2:52 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon Apr 30, 1:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 11:49 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 9:43 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 4:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 4:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 10:09 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 2:26 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 3:19 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 5:28 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 4:32 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 4:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 5:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 8:01 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 4:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3 (mmap conceptual disc..., Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 11:47 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Maxim Levitsky, (Thu Apr 26, 2:50 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 12:51 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 1:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 1:44 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Pierre Ossman, (Sat Apr 28, 6:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Sat Apr 28, 11:39 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Thu Apr 26, 9:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Matt Mackall, (Sun Apr 29, 10:12 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 9:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 5:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 11:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 12:05 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 12:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:46 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 10:47 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:57 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 1:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:53 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:07 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:42 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:13 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:53 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 2:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 8:32 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 8:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 9:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andy Whitcroft, (Thu Apr 26, 8:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 11:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 11:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 11:19 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 10:18 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 3:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:07 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:11 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:17 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:45 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:10 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 2:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:10 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:07 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 2:45 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:59 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 3:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 9:50 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jeremy Higdon, (Thu Apr 26, 8:19 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 11:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 11:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 5:46 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:50 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 12:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 1:49 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 2:09 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:12 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:28 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:29 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:35 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 4:22 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Fri Apr 27, 1:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 8:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 3:35 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 3:42 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Apr 27, 12:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:26 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Apr 27, 9:51 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 2:24 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:24 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 4:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 4:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:54 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 1:58 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:02 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 8:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Apr 24, 8:47 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Wed Apr 25, 9:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 11:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 7:35 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 11:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 1:53 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 2:05 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 2:14 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 2:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Tue Apr 24, 11:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jörn, (Tue Apr 24, 8:46 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Badari Pulavarty, (Wed Apr 25, 6:46 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Wed Apr 25, 9:14 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Wed Apr 25, 9:17 pm)
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