Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review

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Date: Friday, May 25, 2007 - 5:19 am

Hi!


But it does not work, and as you demonstrated, getting it to work w/o
preloading is awful lot of work. Feel free to send a patch. Unless you
are ready to do that, stop confusing driver authors.


Firmware loader is complex userspace process. That's not silly. It is
userland, and I'd hate to explain to its authors detailed rules. 

It could do 'find / -name "pcmcia-card-firmware"' for example. It
could do dbus message to tell gnome-graphical-crap to display window
to say that it is loading firmware. Maybe it also writes to syslog
when syslogd is available.

It is userland process, so it is allowed to do stupid stuff.

[If you do not agree, please try to write up
"Doc*/what-firmware-loader-must-do.txt" -- at that point you should
realize how ugly the solution you are suggesting is.]
									Pavel
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Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Linus Torvalds, (Tue May 22, 6:07 pm)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Romano Giannetti, (Thu May 24, 8:06 am)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 24, 12:16 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 24, 5:03 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Henrique de Moraes Holschuh..., (Thu May 24, 7:16 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri May 25, 7:44 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun May 27, 2:32 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon May 28, 4:11 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun May 27, 3:09 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 29, 8:00 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Michael-Luke Jones, (Tue May 29, 8:00 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 29, 8:16 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Pavel Machek, (Fri May 25, 5:19 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Nigel Cunningham, (Thu May 24, 10:20 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Nigel Cunningham, (Thu May 24, 11:00 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Nigel Cunningham, (Fri May 25, 12:33 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed May 30, 10:04 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed May 30, 10:08 am)
Long delay in resume from RAM (Was Re: [patch 00/69] -stable..., Romano Giannetti, (Thu May 24, 11:06 am)
Re: Long delay in resume from RAM (Was Re: [patch 00/69] -st..., Johannes Stezenbach, (Thu May 24, 6:30 pm)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Romano Giannetti, (Wed May 23, 3:09 am)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Paolo Ornati, (Wed May 23, 3:19 am)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Romano Giannetti, (Wed May 23, 3:38 am)