Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review

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To: Pavel Machek <pavel@...>
Cc: Romano Giannetti <romanol@...>, Chris Wright <chrisw@...>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...>, <stable@...>, Justin Forbes <jmforbes@...>, Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@...>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@...>, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...>, Dave Jones <davej@...>, Chuck Wolber <chuckw@...>, Chris Wedgwood <reviews@...>, Michael Krufky <mkrufky@...>, <akpm@...>, <alan@...>, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...>
Date: Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 6:10 pm

On Fri, 25 May 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:

No they won't.

Why the HELL cannot you realize that kernel threads are different?

The right thing to do is AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN, to stop and start user 
threads only around the whole thing.

Don't touch those kernel threads. Stop freezing them.

Then, what you do is:
 - stop user space
 - suspend
 - resume
 - start user space

and at no point do you touch any kernel threads.

And yes, that "resume" part is multi-phase. We already have 
"resume_early()" to do bus-level setup, and then "resume()" to do the 
"make devices work". I was suggesting adding a "resume_late()" phase to 
let the devices do things that require other devices to work, like doing 
firmware loading.

But stopping kernel threads is STUPID. As long as we continue to do that, 
it will never _ever_ work.

Yeah, we could re-start the kernel thread before "resume_late()", but the 
fact is, they shouldn't have been stopped in the first place.

			Linus
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Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Linus Torvalds, (Tue May 22, 6:07 pm)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Romano Giannetti, (Thu May 24, 8:06 am)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 24, 12:16 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 24, 5:03 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 24, 6:10 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Henrique de Moraes Holschuh..., (Thu May 24, 7:16 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri May 25, 7:44 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun May 27, 2:32 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon May 28, 4:11 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun May 27, 3:09 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 29, 8:00 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Michael-Luke Jones, (Tue May 29, 8:00 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 29, 8:16 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Nigel Cunningham, (Thu May 24, 10:20 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Nigel Cunningham, (Thu May 24, 11:00 pm)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Nigel Cunningham, (Fri May 25, 12:33 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed May 30, 10:04 am)
Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed May 30, 10:08 am)
Long delay in resume from RAM (Was Re: [patch 00/69] -stable..., Romano Giannetti, (Thu May 24, 11:06 am)
Re: Long delay in resume from RAM (Was Re: [patch 00/69] -st..., Johannes Stezenbach, (Thu May 24, 6:30 pm)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Romano Giannetti, (Wed May 23, 3:09 am)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Paolo Ornati, (Wed May 23, 3:19 am)
Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review, Romano Giannetti, (Wed May 23, 3:38 am)