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Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3

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To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...>
Cc: David Chinner <dgc@...>, Christoph Lameter <clameter@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Mel Gorman <mel@...>, William Lee Irwin III <wli@...>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...>, Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@...>, Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@...>, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...>
Date: Friday, April 27, 2007 - 11:17 pm

On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:11:08PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:

For read, yes, and it's because something is going wrong with the
I/O size - it looks like readahead thrashing of some kind even
with 4k pages tests.

When when I bumped the block device readahead from 256 -> 2048,
the single disk read numbers went 60, 75, 75MB/s for 4->64k block size
and were repeatable, so we definitely have some interaction with readahead.


Filesystem blocksize, as specified by mkfs.xfs. Which, in turn,
changes the page cache order.


Increasing the filesystem block size also reduces the overhead of
the filesystem, not just he page cache. A lot of the overhead (write
especially) reductions are going to be filesystem block size
related, so I wouldn't start assuming that it's just he page cache
changes that have brought about these system time reductions.


....

Sure but that's a different problem to what we are trying to solve
now.  Even with this in place, I think we'd still realise
improvements with the compound pages....


Where did that come from? You spend 20 lines described the inefficiencies
of the readahead in the page cache and it should be fixed but then you
turn around and say fix the HBA? 

This test was constructed to keep the I/o sizes within the current
bounds, so the HBA sees no difference in I/O sizes as the filesystem
block size changes.  i.e. the HBA is constant factor during the
tests. IOWs, the changes in numbers above are purely a result of the
page cache and filesystem changes....

And besides, the "lameo HBA" I'm using is cleared limited by the
PCI-X bus it's on, not the size and type of pages being thrown at it
by the I/O layers. The hardware is pretty much irrelevant in these
tests....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group
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[00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, , (Tue Apr 24, 6:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Maxim Levitsky, (Sat Apr 28, 12:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon Apr 30, 1:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Thu Apr 26, 10:04 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 10:27 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Thu Apr 26, 10:53 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 12:20 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 1:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Theodore Tso, (Fri Apr 27, 12:55 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nicholas Miell, (Fri Apr 27, 1:32 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 2:12 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 2:09 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 4:03 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 9:31 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 12:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 2:56 am)
RE: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Weigert, Daniel, (Mon May 7, 11:17 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri May 4, 12:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 4:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 8:57 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Theodore Tso, (Fri Apr 27, 12:45 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 9:33 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 12:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 12:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 1:27 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 2:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon May 7, 12:06 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 1:29 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 2:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 3:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Tue May 8, 4:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 1:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 2:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 9:44 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:15 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Paul Mackerras, (Fri Apr 27, 7:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 7:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 7:41 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Paul Mackerras, (Fri Apr 27, 8:14 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:42 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 8:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 8:12 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 8:25 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 12:48 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:39 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 10:27 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Sat Apr 28, 4:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 10:50 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 11:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:35 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:19 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:26 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 12:36 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 1:34 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 11:17 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 12:56 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 5:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 5:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 6:21 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 6:25 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 7:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 10:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Sat Apr 28, 1:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 1:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Sat Apr 28, 2:24 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 2:52 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon Apr 30, 1:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 11:49 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 9:43 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 4:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 4:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 10:09 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 2:26 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 3:19 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 5:28 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 4:32 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 4:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 5:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 8:01 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 4:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3 (mmap conceptual disc..., Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 11:47 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Maxim Levitsky, (Thu Apr 26, 2:50 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 12:51 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 1:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 1:44 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Pierre Ossman, (Sat Apr 28, 6:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Sat Apr 28, 11:39 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Thu Apr 26, 9:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Matt Mackall, (Sun Apr 29, 10:12 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 9:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 5:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 11:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 12:05 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 12:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:46 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 10:47 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:57 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 1:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:53 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:07 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:42 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:13 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:53 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 2:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 8:32 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 8:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 9:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andy Whitcroft, (Thu Apr 26, 8:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 11:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 11:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 11:19 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 10:18 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 3:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:07 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:11 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:17 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:45 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:10 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 2:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:10 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:07 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 2:45 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:59 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 3:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 9:50 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jeremy Higdon, (Thu Apr 26, 8:19 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 11:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 11:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 5:46 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:50 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 12:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 1:49 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 2:09 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:12 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:28 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:29 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:35 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 4:22 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Fri Apr 27, 1:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 8:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 3:35 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 3:42 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Apr 27, 12:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:26 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Apr 27, 9:51 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 2:24 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:24 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 4:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 4:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:54 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 1:58 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:02 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 8:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Apr 24, 8:47 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Wed Apr 25, 9:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 11:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 7:35 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 11:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 1:53 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 2:05 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 2:14 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 2:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Tue Apr 24, 11:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jörn, (Tue Apr 24, 8:46 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Badari Pulavarty, (Wed Apr 25, 6:46 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Wed Apr 25, 9:14 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Wed Apr 25, 9:17 pm)
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