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To: David Chinner <dgc@...>
Cc: <clameter@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Mel Gorman <mel@...>, William Lee Irwin III <wli@...>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...>, Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@...>, Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@...>
Date: Friday, April 27, 2007 - 4:48 am

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:03:21 +1000 David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com> wrote:


We're talking about two separate things here - let us not conflate them.

1: The arguably-crippled HBA which wants bigger SG lists.

2: The late-breaking large-blocksizes-in-the-fs thing.


None of this multiple-page-locking stuff we're discussing here is relevant
to the HBA performance problem.  It's pretty simple (I think) for us to
ensure that, for the great majority of the time, contiguous pages in a file
are also physically contiguous.  Problem solved, HBA go nice and quick,
move on.




Now, we have this the second and completely unrelated requirement:
supporting fs-blocksize > PAGE_SIZE.  One way to address this is via the
mangle-multiple-pages-into-one approach.  And it's obviously the best way
to do it, if mangle-multiple-pages is already available.

But I don't know how important requirement 2 is.  XFS already has
presumably-working private code to do it, and there is simplification and
perhaps modest performance gain in the block allocator to be had here.

And other filesystems (ie: ext4) _might_ use it.  But ext4 is extent-based,
so perhaps it's not work churning the on-disk format to get a bit of a
boost in the block allocator.

So I _think_ what this boils down to is offering some simplifications in
XFS, by adding complexications to core VFS and MM.  I dunno if that's a
good deal.


So...  tell us why you want feature 2?
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[00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, , (Tue Apr 24, 6:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Maxim Levitsky, (Sat Apr 28, 12:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon Apr 30, 1:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Thu Apr 26, 10:04 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 10:27 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Thu Apr 26, 10:53 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 12:20 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 1:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Theodore Tso, (Fri Apr 27, 12:55 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nicholas Miell, (Fri Apr 27, 1:32 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 2:12 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 2:09 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 4:03 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 9:31 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 12:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 2:56 am)
RE: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Weigert, Daniel, (Mon May 7, 11:17 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri May 4, 12:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 4:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 8:57 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Theodore Tso, (Fri Apr 27, 12:45 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri May 4, 9:33 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 12:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 12:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Mon May 7, 1:27 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Mon May 7, 2:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon May 7, 12:06 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 1:29 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 2:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Mon May 7, 3:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Tue May 8, 4:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 1:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 2:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 9:44 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:15 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Paul Mackerras, (Fri Apr 27, 7:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 7:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 7:41 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Paul Mackerras, (Fri Apr 27, 8:14 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:42 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 8:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 8:12 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 8:25 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 12:48 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 27, 9:39 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 10:27 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Sat Apr 28, 4:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 10:50 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 11:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:35 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 3:19 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:26 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 12:36 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 1:34 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 27, 3:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 11:17 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 12:56 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 5:43 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 5:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 6:21 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 6:25 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Sat Apr 28, 7:29 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 10:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Sat Apr 28, 1:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 1:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Sat Apr 28, 2:24 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 2:52 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Mon Apr 30, 1:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 11:49 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 9:43 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 4:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 4:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 10:09 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 2:26 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Sat Apr 28, 3:19 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 5:28 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 4:32 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 28, 4:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Apr 28, 5:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Fri Apr 27, 8:01 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Fri Apr 27, 4:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3 (mmap conceptual disc..., Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 11:47 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Maxim Levitsky, (Thu Apr 26, 2:50 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 12:51 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 1:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 1:44 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Pierre Ossman, (Sat Apr 28, 6:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Sat Apr 28, 11:39 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Alan Cox, (Thu Apr 26, 9:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Matt Mackall, (Sun Apr 29, 10:12 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 9:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 5:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 11:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 12:05 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 12:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:46 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 10:47 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:57 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 1:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:53 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:07 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:42 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:13 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:15 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:53 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 2:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 8:32 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:22 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 8:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 9:06 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Fri Apr 27, 10:49 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Andy Whitcroft, (Thu Apr 26, 8:37 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 11:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 11:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 11:19 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 10:18 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:48 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 3:04 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:07 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:11 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:17 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 3:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 3:45 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:10 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:08 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 2:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:10 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:07 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 2:45 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:59 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 3:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Thu Apr 26, 9:50 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jeremy Higdon, (Thu Apr 26, 8:19 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 11:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 11:58 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 5:46 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 10:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 2:50 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 12:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:38 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 1:49 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 2:09 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:12 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:28 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:29 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 2:35 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:39 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 4:22 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Fri Apr 27, 1:16 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Thu Apr 26, 8:21 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 3:35 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 3:42 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Apr 27, 12:05 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Fri Apr 27, 6:26 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Apr 27, 9:51 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Apr 26, 2:24 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:24 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 4:40 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Nick Piggin, (Thu Apr 26, 4:55 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:30 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Apr 26, 6:54 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Apr 26, 1:58 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Thu Apr 26, 2:02 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Thu Apr 26, 8:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, H. Peter Anvin, (Tue Apr 24, 8:47 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Mel Gorman, (Wed Apr 25, 9:28 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 11:23 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 7:35 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 11:36 am)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 1:53 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 2:03 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 2:05 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Christoph Lameter, (Wed Apr 25, 2:14 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jens Axboe, (Wed Apr 25, 2:16 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, William Lee Irwin III, (Tue Apr 24, 11:11 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Jörn, (Tue Apr 24, 8:46 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, Badari Pulavarty, (Wed Apr 25, 6:46 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Wed Apr 25, 9:14 pm)
Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3, David Chinner, (Wed Apr 25, 9:17 pm)
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