On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:I wouldn't say that, but yes, there is at least *some* tendency to not merge scary stuff after a painful release. For example, I can certainly say that after 2.6.21, I'm likely to be very unhappy merging something that isn't "obviously safe". I knew the timer changes were potentially painful, I just hadn't realized just *how* painful they would be (we had some SATA/IDE changes too, of course, it's not all just about the timers, those just ended up being more noticeable to me than some of the other things were). I actually hope that 2.6.21 isn't even all that bad, despite all the worries about it. And I may be complaining about the problems the timers caused, but it was definitely something that was not only worth it, it was overdue - and those NO_HZ issues had been brewing literally for years. So considering issues like that, I think we're actually doing fairly well. One of the bigger issues is that I think -mm (and I'm pretty sure Andrew will agree with me on this) has really had a rather spotty history. It's been unstable enough at times that I suspect people have largely stopped testing it, with just the most die-hard testers running -mm. So -mm is still very useful just because *Andrew* tests it, and finds all kinds of issues with it, but I literally suspect that Andrew himself is personally a big part of that, which is kind of wasteful - we should be able to spread out the pain more. Andrew is also too damn polite when something goes wrong ;) So we should have somebody like Christoph running -mm, and when things break, we'll just sic Christoph on whoever broke it, and teach people proper fear and respect! As it is, I think people tend to send things to -mm a bit *too* eagerly, because there is no downside - Andrew is a "cheap date" testing-wise, and always puts out ;) Linus -
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| Jan Engelhardt | intel iommu (Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23) |
| Linus Torvalds | Re: init's children list is long and slows reaping children. |
| David Miller | Re: [GIT]: Networking |
| Jarek Poplawski | [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock(). |
| Gerrit Renker | [PATCH 27/37] dccp: Integration of dynamic feature activation - part 2 (server side) |
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