Re: [PATCH] Remove "obsolete" label from ISDN4Linux (v3)

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To: Alan Cox <alan@...>
Cc: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...>, David Miller <davem@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <kkeil@...>, <i4ldeveloper@...>, <akpm@...>
Date: Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:48 am

Hi Alan,

On 4/22/07, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

Sorry for butting in (I have absolutely no interest or stake in I4L,
just joining in the debate to clear my understanding of how things
have always worked or should work in kernel development):

I must be missing something here. Tilman's point is really quite
simple and fundamental (which you haven't answered as yet). Why, or
rather how, were the writers of newer APIs _allowed_ to push *their*
stuff into the kernel _without_ even bothering to convert the
*existing* users of the older APIs in the kernel? This goes against
the spirit of pretty much how anything is done in here ... one can't
really find fault with the original author of I4L for not using APIs
that didn't even exist when he wrote I4L. Or was I4L always obsolete
from the beginning itself when it was merged in?


It's not about "pushing someone else's cart". It's about not breaking
existing (and working) kernel subsystems that do have a userbase.
Saying that some code is messy and convoluted etc etc does *not*
justify the writers of newer APIs from ignoring to update an existing
and working kernel subsystem to their newer APIs. If we allow
something like this (or if this was allowed in the past), then we
could be setting a very unfortunate precedent.

I really don't have any specific knowledge of the I4L codebase, so
perhaps you and Dave do have better reasons to keep it marked as
obsolete (and *allow* it get broken by API changes in the future).

Satyam
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any value to fixing apparent bugs in old ISDN4Linux?, Robert P. J. Day, (Mon Jan 15, 7:43 am)
Re: any value to fixing apparent bugs in old ISDN4Linux?, Tilman Schmidt, (Mon Jan 15, 1:09 pm)
Re: any value to fixing apparent bugs in old ISDN4Linux?, Robert P. J. Day, (Mon Jan 15, 1:17 pm)
[PATCH] ISDN4Linux: fix maturity label (v4), Tilman Schmidt, (Mon May 28, 12:32 pm)
[PATCH] Remove "obsolete" label from ISDN4Linux (v3), Tilman Schmidt, (Sat Apr 21, 9:07 am)
Re: [PATCH] Remove "obsolete" label from ISDN4Linux (v3), Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Apr 22, 8:27 am)
Re: [PATCH] Remove "obsolete" label from ISDN4Linux (v3), Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Apr 22, 10:29 am)
Re: [PATCH] Remove "obsolete" label from ISDN4Linux (v3), Satyam Sharma, (Sun Apr 22, 11:48 am)
Re: [PATCH] Remove "obsolete" label from ISDN4Linux (v3), Tilman Schmidt, (Mon Apr 23, 7:58 pm)
[Repost][PATCH] Remove "obsolete" label from ISDN4Linux, Tilman Schmidt, (Wed Mar 28, 6:18 pm)