Re: Xen & VMI?

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From: Ingo Molnar
Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 - 1:37 pm

* Nakajima, Jun <jun.nakajima@intel.com> wrote:


maybe we are talking past each other because i dont really disagree with 
that: i mentioned it right at beginning that higher-level APIs would 
have to be added to VMI. What i'd like to avoid is the ABI duplication 
for the lowlevel stuff /and/ for the highlevel stuff. Since VMI is 
mostly about lowlevel stuff right now it's obvious that it would have to 
grow more highlevel ops. Doing an IO driver via IO emulation is 
obviously pretty ... low-tech.

maybe i shouldnt call it 'VMI' but 'the paravirt ABI'. I dont mind if 
it's the Xen ABI or the VMWare ABI or a mesh of the two - everyone can 
map their own internals to that /one/ ABI.

	Ingo
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[patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 5:06 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Avi Kivity, (Mon Mar 5, 5:36 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 5:40 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Avi Kivity, (Mon Mar 5, 6:00 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 6:28 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 6:32 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:38 am)
[patch] paravirt: re-enable COMPAT_VDSO, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:46 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:48 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:48 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:59 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Avi Kivity, (Mon Mar 5, 7:10 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 7:10 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:27 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:28 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:34 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:58 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 1:11 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 1:16 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 1:19 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 1:33 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 1:42 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Roland McGrath, (Mon Mar 5, 2:58 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 3:01 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Roland McGrath, (Mon Mar 5, 3:58 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 4:03 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 5:57 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 6:03 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 6:11 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 6:14 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 6:51 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 6:53 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 12:35 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 12:42 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 12:50 am)
Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:19 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:34 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 1:37 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 1:48 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:52 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 2:03 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:07 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:10 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Roland McGrath, (Tue Mar 6, 2:13 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:14 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 2:15 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:26 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:34 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Avi Kivity, (Tue Mar 6, 2:55 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 3:15 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 3:23 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 3:26 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 3:31 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 4:04 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 4:59 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 5:34 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Anthony Liguori, (Tue Mar 6, 8:03 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 9:27 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 9:42 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 10:11 am)
RE: Xen &amp; VMI?, Nakajima, Jun, (Tue Mar 6, 10:17 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 10:18 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Anthony Liguori, (Tue Mar 6, 10:32 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 11:04 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 11:48 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Chris Wright, (Tue Mar 6, 12:46 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:30 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:37 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Chris Wright, (Tue Mar 6, 1:53 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:02 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:03 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:11 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:13 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:20 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Chris Wright, (Tue Mar 6, 2:28 pm)
RE: Xen &amp; VMI?, Nakajima, Jun, (Tue Mar 6, 2:35 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:46 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Rusty Russell, (Tue Mar 6, 5:44 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Anthony Liguori, (Tue Mar 6, 5:54 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 7:16 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 7:35 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 8:06 pm)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Mar 7, 1:15 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Wed Mar 7, 2:17 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Mar 7, 4:15 am)
Re: Xen &amp; VMI?, Dan Hecht, (Wed Mar 7, 12:14 pm)