Re: Xen & VMI?

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From: Zachary Amsden
Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 - 2:03 am

Ingo Molnar wrote:

But hardware PC boards don't do anything as remotely complicate as 
changing the semantics required for correctness in you MMU 
implementation.  There might be some weird MTRR and caching things, 
which are a property of the architecture, and which all modern boards 
have in common.  You don't have completely diverse implementation 
properties like shadow vs direct vs native page tables.  Or hardware 
virtualization vs direct CPL raised execution.  You simply can't test 
this diversity by making an educated guess, because in this case, 
something will always be omitted.  The test matrix has to be raised, and 
if that is a problem, the burden of proper testing shifted onto the 
manufacturers, just as you would with some new PC board or new 
architecture that wanted to be Linux friendly but was radically 
different in some way.

Zach
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[patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 5:06 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Avi Kivity, (Mon Mar 5, 5:36 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 5:40 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Avi Kivity, (Mon Mar 5, 6:00 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 6:28 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 6:32 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:38 am)
[patch] paravirt: re-enable COMPAT_VDSO, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:46 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:48 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:48 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 6:59 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Avi Kivity, (Mon Mar 5, 7:10 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 7:10 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:27 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:28 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:34 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 7:58 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 1:11 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 5, 1:16 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Mar 5, 1:19 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 1:33 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 1:42 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Roland McGrath, (Mon Mar 5, 2:58 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 3:01 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Roland McGrath, (Mon Mar 5, 3:58 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 4:03 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 5:57 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 6:03 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Rusty Russell, (Mon Mar 5, 6:11 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 6:14 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Mon Mar 5, 6:51 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Mar 5, 6:53 pm)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 12:35 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 12:42 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 12:50 am)
Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:19 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:34 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 1:37 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 1:48 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:52 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 2:03 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:07 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:10 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Roland McGrath, (Tue Mar 6, 2:13 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:14 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 2:15 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:26 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:34 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Avi Kivity, (Tue Mar 6, 2:55 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 3:15 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 3:23 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 3:26 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 3:31 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 4:04 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 4:59 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Gerd Hoffmann, (Tue Mar 6, 5:34 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Anthony Liguori, (Tue Mar 6, 8:03 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 9:27 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 9:42 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 10:11 am)
RE: Xen & VMI?, Nakajima, Jun, (Tue Mar 6, 10:17 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 10:18 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Anthony Liguori, (Tue Mar 6, 10:32 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 11:04 am)
Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 11:48 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Chris Wright, (Tue Mar 6, 12:46 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:30 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 1:37 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Chris Wright, (Tue Mar 6, 1:53 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:02 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:03 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:11 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:13 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Mar 6, 2:20 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Chris Wright, (Tue Mar 6, 2:28 pm)
RE: Xen & VMI?, Nakajima, Jun, (Tue Mar 6, 2:35 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Mar 6, 2:46 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Rusty Russell, (Tue Mar 6, 5:44 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Anthony Liguori, (Tue Mar 6, 5:54 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 7:16 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 7:35 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Tue Mar 6, 8:06 pm)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Mar 7, 1:15 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Zachary Amsden, (Wed Mar 7, 2:17 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Mar 7, 4:15 am)
Re: Xen & VMI?, Dan Hecht, (Wed Mar 7, 12:14 pm)