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From:
Con Kolivas <kernel@...>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@...>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>, linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@...>, ck list <ck@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>
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Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
Date: Monday, March 12, 2007 - 2:10 pm
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:26, Linus Torvalds wrote:
quoted text
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 22:23 +1100, Con Kolivas wrote: > > > Mike the cpu is being proportioned out perfectly according to fairness > > > as I mentioned in the prior email, yet X is getting the lower latency > > > scheduling. I'm not sure within the bounds of fairness what more would > > > you have happen to your liking with this test case? > > > > It has been said that "perfection is the enemy of good". The two > > interactive tasks receiving 40% cpu while two niced background jobs > > receive 60% may well be perfect, but it's damn sure not good. > > Well, the real problem is really "server that works on behalf of somebody > else". > > X is just the worst *practical* example of this, since not only is it the > most common such server, it's also a case where people see interactive > issues really easily. > > And the problem is that a lot of clients actually end up doing *more* in > the X server than they do themselves directly. Doing things like showing a > line of text on the screen is a lot more expensive than just keeping track > of that line of text, so you end up with the X server easily being marked > as getting "too much" CPU time, and the clients as being starved for CPU > time. And then you get bad interactive behaviour. > > So "good fairness" really should involve some notion of "work done for > others". It's just not very easy to do..
Instead of assuming it's bad, have you tried RSDL for yourself? Mike is using 2 lame threads for his test case. -- -ck -
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[PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Sat Mar 10, 11:57 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Sun Mar 11, 7:39 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Sun Mar 11, 7:48 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Sun Mar 11, 8:08 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Mar 11, 8:10 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 3:22 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 3:48 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 4:29 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 4:55 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 5:22 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Xavier Bestel
, (Mon Mar 12, 5:38 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 6:34 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Kasper Sandberg
, (Mon Mar 12, 12:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
,
, (Tue Mar 13, 10:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Gabriel C
, (Tue Mar 13, 11:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Xavier Bestel
, (Wed Mar 14, 5:44 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 5:38 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 6:27 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 6:57 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Ingo Molnar
, (Mon Mar 12, 7:08 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 7:23 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Theodore Tso
, (Mon Mar 12, 9:48 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 2:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 10:34 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Linus Torvalds
, (Mon Mar 12, 11:26 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Ingo Molnar
, (Tue Mar 13, 4:09 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Kyle Moffett
, (Tue Mar 13, 12:17 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 2:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 4:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Peter Zijlstra
, (Mon Mar 12, 3:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 2:49 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 4:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Serge Belyshev
, (Mon Mar 12, 5:05 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Mike Galbraith
, (Mon Mar 12, 5:41 pm)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Mon Mar 12, 4:38 pm)
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, michael chang
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, Thibaut VARENE
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, Mike Galbraith
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, Con Kolivas
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, Mike Galbraith
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, (Mon Mar 12, 5:34 pm)
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, David Lang
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, Con Kolivas
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, Pavel Machek
, (Fri Mar 16, 12:42 pm)
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, Mike Galbraith
, (Tue Mar 13, 1:10 am)
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, Ingo Molnar
, (Tue Mar 13, 4:18 am)
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, David Schwartz
, (Tue Mar 13, 11:15 am)
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, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
, (Tue Mar 13, 1:59 pm)
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, David Schwartz
, (Tue Mar 13, 3:58 pm)
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, Bill Huey
, (Tue Mar 13, 4:27 pm)
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, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
, (Tue Mar 13, 4:10 pm)
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, Bill Huey
, (Tue Mar 13, 4:35 pm)
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, Mike Galbraith
, (Tue Mar 13, 5:33 am)
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, Matt Mackall
, (Tue Mar 13, 10:17 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Tue Mar 13, 5:21 am)
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, Ingo Molnar
, (Tue Mar 13, 5:29 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Con Kolivas
, (Tue Mar 13, 5:41 am)
Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
, Bill Huey
, (Tue Mar 13, 6:50 am)
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, Con Kolivas
, (Tue Mar 13, 5:31 am)
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, Xavier Bestel
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