Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23

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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: Tejun Heo <htejun@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...>, LKML <linux-kernel@...>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>
Date: Sunday, December 9, 2007 - 6:01 pm

> Btw, Alan, that "math" is total and utter BULLSH*T, and you should know 

The one off regression is probably not one off, but this is IDE so
actually its quite probable its a single broken firmware. 

The alternative is that you cripple just about every user of various
other standards compliant devices and controllers whose hardware we
finally fixed.

Finally you need to remember that the 'regression' is caused by the fact
we now do the _right_ thing both in terms of 'old IDE' and specs.

Believe it or not I did actually think in quite some detail about this
case, and the relative probabilities, and go back and re-review the old
IDE code (whose behaviour we now follow) and the spec. I spend a
measurable amount of my time reviewing code and weighing risks,
regressions and progress for an enterprise Linux vendor, so its something
I do every day of the week.

To blindly argue regressions are critical is sometimes (as in this case)
to argue that "this freeway is no longer compatible with a horse and
cart" means the freeway should be turned back into a dirt road.

The horse and cart happened to work by chance because the road was quiet
that day. We clearly need to add a horse & cart lane in the long term,
but for 2.6.24 it may well be the right thing to do just to blacklist
that specific drive back to old behaviour until we can tidy it more
nicely.

Alan
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2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Dec 7, 10:40 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Dec 10, 4:42 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Mon Dec 10, 4:59 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Dec 10, 6:45 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Dec 10, 7:04 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Stefano Brivio, (Mon Dec 10, 7:34 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Dec 11, 5:01 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Stefano Brivio, (Tue Dec 11, 5:10 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Guillaume Chazarain, (Mon Dec 10, 7:53 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Dec 11, 4:48 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Dec 10, 7:56 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Guillaume Chazarain, (Mon Dec 10, 8:01 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Dec 10, 9:06 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Dec 11, 4:43 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Guillaume Chazarain, (Mon Dec 10, 4:57 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sun Dec 9, 7:54 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Dec 9, 10:24 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Fabio Comolli, (Sat Dec 8, 2:53 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sat Dec 8, 5:23 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Dec 8, 6:11 pm)
Re: tipc_init(), WARNING: at arch/x86/mm/highmem_32.c:52, [2..., Christoph Lameter, (Thu Dec 13, 6:03 pm)
Re: tipc_init(), WARNING: at arch/x86/mm/highmem_32.c:52, [2..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Dec 9, 10:17 am)
Re: tipc_init(), WARNING: at arch/x86/mm/highmem_32.c:52, [2..., Christoph Lameter, (Fri Dec 14, 12:07 am)
Re: tipc_init(), WARNING: at arch/x86/mm/highmem_32.c:52, [2..., Christoph Lameter, (Thu Dec 13, 6:07 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sat Dec 8, 5:52 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Dec 9, 2:41 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Alan Cox, (Sun Dec 9, 6:01 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Dec 9, 9:57 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Dec 10, 4:21 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Dec 10, 4:41 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Dec 10, 11:38 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Dec 9, 2:36 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sat Dec 8, 5:46 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sat Dec 8, 5:42 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Roland Dreier, (Sat Dec 8, 2:57 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Theodore Tso, (Sat Dec 8, 3:40 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Dec 8, 6:30 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Theodore Tso, (Sat Dec 8, 10:15 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Takashi Iwai, (Thu Dec 13, 6:49 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Takashi Iwai, (Thu Dec 20, 11:42 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sat Dec 8, 5:36 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Dec 9, 10:20 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andreas Mohr, (Sat Dec 8, 6:12 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sat Dec 8, 6:20 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andreas Mohr, (Sat Dec 8, 6:55 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andreas Mohr, (Sun Dec 9, 3:59 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Matthew Garrett, (Sat Dec 8, 6:28 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Andrew Morton, (Sat Dec 8, 5:29 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Dec 8, 6:17 pm)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Richard Purdie, (Sat Dec 8, 6:44 am)
Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Dec 8, 6:32 pm)