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From:
Rene Herman <rene.herman@...>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, <dpreed@...>, Islam Amer <pharon@...>, <hpa@...>, Pavel Machek <pavel@...>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>, Andi Kleen <andi@...>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...>, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...>
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Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override
Date: Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 1:54 pm
On 30-12-07 18:06, Ingo Molnar wrote:
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> * Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl> wrote:
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>> Real ISA systems will also generally respond faster to it than the >> unused port (this thing actually has an ISA bus but not VGA on it >> ofcourse) which means that "a perfect delay register" it is not. But >> yes, I have an actual Am386DX-40 with ISA VGA up and running which >> also doesn't care either way, about the ones in misc_32.c or anywhere >> else for that matter. > > yeah - and that's typical of most _p() use: most of them are totally > bogus, but the global existence of the delay was used as a "it _might_ > break system" boogey-man against replacing it.
No delaying at all does break a few systems.
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> so _IF_ we do any delay in x86 platform drivers, we at most do a delay > on the order of the round-trip latency to the same piece of hardware we > are handling.
Given that part of the problem is 2 MHz devices on a 8 MHz bus, you can't do this generally. Rene. --
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[PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override
, Rene Herman
, (Sat Dec 29, 11:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Linus Torvalds
, (Sun Dec 30, 5:30 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 10:47 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 11:28 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Rene Herman
, (Sun Dec 30, 11:47 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Linus Torvalds
, (Sun Dec 30, 2:40 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Pavel Machek
, (Mon Dec 31, 9:21 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Alan Cox
, (Mon Dec 31, 8:29 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 5:13 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Christer Weinigel
, (Mon Dec 31, 11:29 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 4:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 5:28 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 5:54 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 12:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Rene Herman
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, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 1:06 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 2:29 pm)
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, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 4:46 pm)
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, Pavel Machek
, (Mon Dec 31, 9:11 am)
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, Ingo Molnar
, (Tue Jan 1, 12:48 pm)
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, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 5:29 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 6:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Rene Herman
, (Sun Dec 30, 5:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 5:25 pm)
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, Andi Kleen
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, Rene Herman
, (Sun Dec 30, 1:54 pm)
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, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 11:38 am)
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, Juergen Beisert
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, H. Peter Anvin
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, David P. Reed
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, H. Peter Anvin
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, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 12:01 pm)
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, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 12:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Rene Herman
, (Sun Dec 30, 2:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Alan Cox
, (Mon Dec 31, 8:23 am)
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, Rene Herman
, (Mon Dec 31, 10:35 am)
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, Alan Cox
, (Mon Dec 31, 11:56 am)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Rene Herman
, (Tue Jan 1, 11:01 pm)
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, Ondrej Zary
, (Mon Dec 31, 4:22 pm)
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, Alan Cox
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, H. Peter Anvin
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, Alan Cox
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, H. Peter Anvin
, (Mon Dec 31, 7:41 pm)
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, Alan Cox
, (Sun Dec 30, 2:39 pm)
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, Rene Herman
, (Sun Dec 30, 3:33 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Linus Torvalds
, (Sun Dec 30, 4:00 pm)
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, David P. Reed
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, Alan Cox
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, David P. Reed
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, H. Peter Anvin
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, Alan Cox
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, H. Peter Anvin
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, Rene Herman
, (Sun Dec 30, 4:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay ove...
, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 1:08 pm)
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, Rene Herman
, (Sun Dec 30, 10:14 am)
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, Ingo Molnar
, (Sun Dec 30, 9:03 am)
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, Andi Kleen
, (Sun Dec 30, 8:48 am)
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, Ingo Molnar
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, (Sun Dec 30, 12:08 pm)
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, Ingo Molnar
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