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From:
H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@...>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@...>, kernel list <linux-kernel@...>, Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@...>, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...>
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 4:54 pm
Pavel Machek wrote:
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> On Wed 2007-12-26 12:43:56, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >> Oliver Neukum wrote: >>> Am Mittwoch, 26. Dezember 2007 19:56:59 schrieb H. Peter Anvin: >>>>> 3) Network card that is either down >>>>> or can wake up system on any packet (and not loose too many packets) >>>>> >>>> This is the big crux I see. You're going to constantly wake up the >>>> machine due to broadcast packets, and spend a lot of power just going in >>>> and out of S3. >>> How many machines care a lot about saving power while they are connected >>> to an ethernet? Wlan might be more of a problem. >> A lot of them should. An inordinate amount of machines sit there burning >> power for no reason. You can argue that S3 isn't needed -- that nohz + >> C3/C4 + turning off the screen would be enough, and that might be >> + legit. > > NOHZ + C4 + turn off screen + turn off disk + turn off SATA is still > ~8W on thinkpad x60. > > S3 is ~1W. > > That's quite significant difference. > > (But yes, connected-to-ethernet is not most important use scenario.) > Pavel
Still... if we could get the desktops of the world down anywhere close to that range when not used, it would be a huge win. -hpa --
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[RFC] sleepy linux
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
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, (Sun Dec 30, 7:15 am)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
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Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] sleepy linux
, Igor Stoppa
, (Wed Dec 26, 4:09 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, H. Peter Anvin
, (Wed Dec 26, 2:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Oliver Neukum
, (Wed Dec 26, 4:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, H. Peter Anvin
, (Wed Dec 26, 4:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Pavel Machek
, (Wed Dec 26, 4:51 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, H. Peter Anvin
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Pavel Machek
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
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, (Wed Dec 26, 3:22 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Oliver Neukum
, (Wed Dec 26, 1:28 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Pavel Machek
, (Wed Dec 26, 4:17 pm)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Oliver Neukum
, (Thu Dec 27, 5:41 am)
Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Pavel Machek
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Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
, Oliver Neukum
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