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Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern AMD64 with MCP51 laptops

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To: linux-os (Dick Johnson) <linux-os@...>
Cc: David Newall <david@...>, Rene Herman <rene.herman@...>, Paul Rolland <rol@...>, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>, Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...>, Pavel Machek <pavel@...>, Andi Kleen <andi@...>, Alan Cox <alan@...>, David P. Reed <dpreed@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>, <rol@...>
Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:30 pm

> Most, probably most-all, of the delays to port operations

We know this. The problem is that there is no good known way to 
figure out which machines need it. Also it is typically 
slow hardware anyways -- the most time critical is probably
the 8259, but nobody who cares about performance still uses 
it except as a fail safe fallback and for those it is better
to be conservative.


It has been observed to be required talking to some older 
PCI based northbridges too. 


and PIT etc.

Anyways it looks like the discussion here is going in a
a loop. I had hoped David would post his test results with
another port so that we know for sure that the bus aborts 
(and not port 80) is the problem on his box. But it looks like
he doesn't want to do this. Still removing the bus aborts
is probably the correct way to go forward.

Only needs a patch now. If nobody beats me to it i'll
add one later to my tree.

-Andi

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Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern A..., linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Tue Dec 11, 11:41 am)
Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern A..., Andi Kleen, (Tue Dec 11, 12:30 pm)
More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., David P. Reed, (Wed Dec 12, 4:07 pm)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., Rene Herman, (Wed Dec 12, 4:26 pm)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., Rene Herman, (Wed Dec 12, 4:58 pm)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Dec 12, 5:05 pm)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., Chuck Ebbert, (Fri Dec 14, 6:05 pm)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., Rene Herman, (Sat Dec 15, 3:22 am)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Dec 12, 5:12 pm)
RE: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., Allen Martin, (Sat Dec 15, 6:34 pm)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., H. Peter Anvin, (Sat Dec 15, 6:46 pm)
Re: More info on port 80 symptoms on MCP51 machine., David P. Reed, (Wed Dec 12, 4:37 pm)
Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern A..., linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Tue Dec 11, 4:27 pm)
Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern A..., linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Wed Dec 12, 9:11 am)
Attitude problems., David P. Reed, (Wed Dec 12, 3:42 pm)
Re: Attitude problems., linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Wed Dec 12, 4:31 pm)
Re: Attitude problems., linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Fri Dec 14, 12:01 pm)
Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern A..., Dr. David Alan Gilbert, (Sun Dec 9, 9:41 am)
Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern A..., Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Dec 11, 11:14 am)
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