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From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@...>
To: Ben Crowhurst <Ben.Crowhurst@...>
Cc: <linux-kernel@...>
Subject: Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C
Date: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:34 am

On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:14:16PM +0000, Ben Crowhurst wrote:

Doesn't objective C essentially require a runtime to provide a lot of
the features of the language?  If it does (as I suspect) then it is
totally unsiatable for kernel development.

That and object oriented languages in general are badly designed and a
bad idea.  Having not used objective C I have no idea if it qualifies as
badly designed or not.  Certainly C++ and java are both very badly
designed.

Besides the kernel does a wonderful job doing object oriented design
where apropriate using C without any of the stupidities added by the
common OO languages.

--
Len Sorensen
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Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Ben Crowhurst, (Thu Nov 29, 8:14 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Chris Snook, (Fri Nov 30, 11:00 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, David Newall, (Sat Dec 1, 5:50 am)
Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C, Lennart Sorensen, (Fri Nov 30, 10:34 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Avi Kivity, (Sat Dec 1, 3:59 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Lennart Sorensen, (Mon Dec 3, 12:53 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Jörn, (Sun Dec 2, 3:44 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Kyle Moffett, (Fri Nov 30, 11:26 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Avi Kivity, (Sat Dec 1, 4:03 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Andi Kleen, (Sun Dec 2, 3:01 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Avi Kivity, (Mon Dec 3, 1:12 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Gilboa Davara, (Mon Dec 3, 8:35 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Dec 4, 1:50 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Gilboa Davara, (Wed Dec 5, 6:31 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Casey Schaufler, (Mon Dec 3, 12:28 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Gilboa Davara, (Mon Dec 3, 8:44 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Andi Kleen, (Mon Dec 3, 5:50 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Avi Kivity, (Mon Dec 3, 7:46 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Willy Tarreau, (Mon Dec 3, 5:13 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Avi Kivity, (Tue Dec 4, 5:07 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Willy Tarreau, (Tue Dec 4, 6:43 pm)
Micro vs macro optimizations (was: Re: Kernel Development &a..., Avi Kivity, (Wed Dec 5, 1:05 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, J.A. , (Mon Dec 3, 5:39 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Alan Cox, (Mon Dec 3, 5:57 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, J.A. , (Tue Dec 4, 5:47 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Diego Calleja, (Tue Dec 4, 6:20 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Giacomo A. Catenazzi, (Wed Dec 5, 6:59 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Andi Kleen, (Mon Dec 3, 7:50 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, H. Peter Anvin, (Fri Nov 30, 2:40 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Kyle Moffett, (Fri Nov 30, 3:35 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Matti Aarnio, (Fri Nov 30, 7:37 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Loïc Grenié, (Fri Nov 30, 6:29 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, J.A. , (Fri Nov 30, 7:19 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Dec 4, 1:54 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, J.A. , (Tue Dec 4, 5:24 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Avi Kivity, (Tue Dec 4, 5:10 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Al Viro, (Fri Nov 30, 8:31 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Avi Kivity, (Sat Dec 1, 3:55 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, J.A. , (Fri Nov 30, 9:09 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Al Viro, (Fri Nov 30, 8:34 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Nicholas Miell, (Fri Nov 30, 7:53 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Ben Crowhurst, (Fri Nov 30, 7:16 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr., (Sat Dec 8, 4:54 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Lennart Sorensen, (Fri Nov 30, 10:37 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Karol Swietlicki, (Fri Nov 30, 7:36 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Xavier Bestel, (Fri Nov 30, 6:02 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, KOSAKI Motohiro, (Fri Nov 30, 6:09 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, J.A. , (Fri Nov 30, 6:52 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Xavier Bestel, (Fri Nov 30, 6:20 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Jan Engelhardt, (Fri Nov 30, 6:54 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, David Newall, (Fri Nov 30, 10:21 am)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Bill Davidsen, (Fri Nov 30, 7:31 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Alan Cox, (Fri Nov 30, 7:40 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Bill Davidsen, (Sat Dec 1, 2:27 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Alan Cox, (Sat Dec 1, 2:18 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Bill Davidsen, (Sun Dec 2, 9:23 pm)
Re: Kernel Development &amp; Objective-C, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, (Fri Nov 30, 8:05 pm)