Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround

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To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Serge Hallyn <serue@...>, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...>
Date: Saturday, November 3, 2007 - 4:01 pm

Pavel Emelianov [xemul@openvz.org] wrote:
| Ulrich Drepper wrote:
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| > Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
| >>> Isn't it this?
| >>>
| >>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/1/141
| >> That was the initial problem, and I already answered to Ingo about
| >> it
| > 
| > No, look at my old mail which Ingo referenced in that posting.
| 
| You pointed only one problem that is not a variation of "how do 
| we handle the case when we pass our pid outside the namespace".
| 
| This problem with signals is now being resolved at IBM by Sukadev 
| and Serge (I put them in Cc), so this is about to be fixed by the
| time 2.6.24 releases (I hope).

Yes. We (Oleg, Eric included in Cc) have a patchset to address signals
issues in child pid namespaces. It is being discussed on Containers list:

https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/containers/2007-October/008240.html

We will post the patchset to LKML soon.

| 
| As far as the "passing the pid outside the namespace" is concerned, 
| is my answer "pids should never be used outside the namespace they
| came from, otherwise userspace won't work as expected" satisfactory?
| 
| So is "everything else", you mentioned, covered with the problems
| above?
| 
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[patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Nov 1, 10:43 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Thu Nov 1, 11:02 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ulrich Drepper, (Thu Nov 1, 10:53 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Nov 1, 11:05 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Theodore Tso, (Thu Nov 1, 2:57 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Nov 1, 3:53 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ulrich Drepper, (Thu Nov 1, 8:23 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Thu Nov 1, 10:51 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ulrich Drepper, (Thu Nov 1, 10:56 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Dave Hansen, (Thu Nov 1, 12:12 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Thu Nov 1, 11:05 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ulrich Drepper, (Thu Nov 1, 8:21 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Fri Nov 2, 3:55 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Andrew Morton, (Fri Nov 2, 4:04 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Dave Hansen, (Fri Nov 2, 1:30 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Nov 2, 1:39 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ingo Molnar, (Sat Nov 3, 4:12 pm)
Futexes and network filesystems., Er ic W. Biederman, (Tue Nov 20, 6:53 pm)
Re: Futexes and network filesystems., Kyle Moffett, (Wed Nov 21, 2:16 am)
Re: Futexes and network filesystems., Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Nov 21, 2:30 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Nov 3, 6:40 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespaces, Ingo Molnar, (Sun Nov 4, 6:38 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespaces, Denys Vlasenko, (Mon Nov 5, 10:47 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespaces, Dave Hansen, (Sun Nov 4, 4:12 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Arjan van de Ven, (Sat Nov 3, 7:55 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Nicholas Miell, (Sat Nov 3, 12:02 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Fri Nov 2, 4:14 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ulrich Drepper, (Fri Nov 2, 10:05 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Fri Nov 2, 10:21 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, , (Sat Nov 3, 4:01 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Eric W. Biederman, (Sun Nov 4, 3:17 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ulrich Drepper, (Fri Nov 2, 11:34 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Fri Nov 2, 11:58 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ulrich Drepper, (Sat Nov 3, 12:34 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Tue Nov 6, 3:49 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Theodore Tso, (Fri Nov 2, 5:39 pm)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Peter Zijlstra, (Thu Nov 1, 10:56 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Thu Nov 1, 11:06 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Nov 1, 11:17 am)
Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround, Pavel Emelyanov, (Thu Nov 1, 11:30 am)