Re: freeze vs freezer

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From: Kyle Moffett
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 1:33 pm

On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:40:24, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

Why exactly does suspend/hibernation depend on "TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE"  
instead of a zero preempt_count()?  Really what we should do is just  
iterate over all of the actual physical devices and tell each one  
"Block new IO requests preemptably, finish pending DMA, put the  
hardware in low-power mode, and prepare for suspend/hibernate".  As  
long as each driver knows how to do those simple things we can have  
an entirely consistent kernel image for both suspend and for  
hibernation.

When all tasks are preemptable we can very trivially rely on the  
drivers to enforce the "Stop new IO submission" with a dirt-simple  
semaphore or waitqueue.  The sleep itself will be  
TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, but it will be done from a preemptible context.

That way the system suspend time is the sum of the suspend times of  
the devices on the system, and the suspend time of any given device  
is the sum of its maximum non-preemptible critical section and the  
time to flush all of its remaining pending DMA/etc.  This is almost  
completely independent of the load-level of the machine, and it does  
not depend on things like NFS filesystems.  The one gotcha is that it  
does not flush dirty filesystem pages to disk first, although that  
could be fixed with a few VFS and blockdev hooks which hierarchically  
flush and "freeze" block devices and filesystems before actually  
disabling devices much the way that device-mapper can pause a device  
to take a snapshot and end up with a clean journal on the filesystem  
afterwards.

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

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freeze vs freezer, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Nov 21, 8:54 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Nov 23, 4:47 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Nov 26, 11:44 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, David Chinner, (Mon Nov 26, 2:17 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Nov 26, 2:20 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Nov 26, 2:53 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Matthew Garrett, (Mon Nov 26, 10:38 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Nov 27, 10:40 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Kyle Moffett, (Tue Nov 27, 1:33 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Nov 27, 4:01 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Kyle Moffett, (Tue Nov 27, 4:14 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Nov 27, 4:32 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Pavel Machek, (Wed Jan 2, 9:02 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Nigel Cunningham, (Wed Jan 2, 2:30 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Jan 2, 3:04 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Nigel Cunningham, (Thu Jan 3, 2:19 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Oliver Neukum, (Thu Jan 3, 2:47 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Nigel Cunningham, (Thu Jan 3, 2:52 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Oliver Neukum, (Thu Jan 3, 4:15 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Jan 3, 3:31 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Oliver Neukum, (Fri Jan 4, 1:54 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Kyle Moffett, (Fri Jan 4, 6:38 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Pavel Machek, (Sat Jan 5, 2:18 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Nigel Cunningham, (Sat Jan 5, 4:01 pm)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Pavel Machek, (Mon Jun 23, 12:16 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Henrique de Moraes H ..., (Mon Jun 23, 7:00 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Elias Oltmanns, (Tue Jun 24, 1:08 am)
Re: freeze vs freezer, Pavel Machek, (Thu Jun 26, 8:09 am)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Dave Chinner, (Sun Jun 29, 3:12 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jun 29, 4:22 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Christoph Hellwig, (Sun Jun 29, 11:11 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Dave Chinner, (Sun Jun 29, 11:29 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Sun Jun 29, 11:37 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Dave Chinner, (Mon Jun 30, 5:33 am)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jun 30, 1:34 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jun 30, 2:00 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Dave Chinner, (Mon Jun 30, 3:21 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jun 30, 3:38 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Dave Chinner, (Mon Jun 30, 11:38 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Pavel Machek, (Tue Jul 1, 1:59 am)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 1, 7:35 am)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Dave Chinner, (Tue Jul 1, 2:12 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jul 1, 2:21 pm)
Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer, Eric Sandeen, (Thu Jul 3, 12:43 pm)