Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message followed by soft lockup)

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To: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...>, <linux-ide@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, Natalie Protasevich <protasnb@...>
Date: Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 4:32 pm

On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 09:07:23PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

It's not that much a different issue:

If there was for each bug a maintainer looking soon after it, we should 
not have many bugs open for a longer time.


There are two different cases:
- no maintainer at all
- maintainer is too busy with other stuff for looking at bug reports

But both cases boil down to the point of how to find maintainers...


First of all, Bugzilla is a quite often used bug tracker in the open 
source world [1], so many users already know it.

But more important, "it pretends to require them to spend" isn't true 
because there's no pretending - we actually often require bug reporters 
to spend a lot of time on the bug report (e.g. when asking for 
bisecting).

I'm also sometimes writing bug reports in different areas, and in my 
experience it doesn't matter whether it's web-based Bugzilla, the 
email-based Debian bug tracker or whatever else system - the time spent 
on a good bug report is not spend on pasting the text whereever or on 
clicking on a few boxes, the time is spent on tracking the issue down 
and writing a good bug report.

What matters for a bug reporter is to get a solution for his problem 
within a reasonable amount of time.


And that's part of the problem.

Bugzilla is a usable tool, but it isn't the only tool available.

If there was one tool all developers would be willing to use that would 
be a reason why we should switch to whatever tool this is.


cu
Adrian

[1] my Seamonkey knows my passwords for more than a dozen Bugzillas

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        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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Re: "buggy cmd640" message followed by soft lockup, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Nov 24, 3:07 pm)
kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message fol..., Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz..., (Sat Nov 24, 8:26 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 9:11 am)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz..., (Sun Nov 25, 10:08 am)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 4:25 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 4:07 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Adrian Bunk, (Sun Nov 25, 4:32 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 5:28 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 6:38 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 7:28 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 8:30 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Nov 26, 6:57 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Nov 25, 6:55 pm)
Re: kernel bugzilla is FPOS (was: Re: "buggy cmd640" message..., Dr. David Alan Gilbert, (Sun Nov 25, 4:08 pm)