Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news

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Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 7:44 am

David Miller writes:


Special files and fops really only work well if you can coerce the
interface into one where data flows predominantly one way.  I don't
think they work so well for something that is more like an RPC across
the user/kernel barrier.  For that a system call is better.

For instance, if you have something that kind-of looks like

	read_pmds(int n, int *pmd_numbers, u64 *pmd_values);

where the caller supplies an array of PMD numbers and the function
returns their values (and you want that reading to be done atomically
in some sense), how would you do that using special files and fops?


Why?  What's inherently offensive about system calls?

Paul.
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[PATCH] fix up perfmon to build on -mm, Greg KH, (Tue Nov 6, 8:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH] fix up perfmon to build on -mm, Andrew Morton, (Fri Nov 9, 4:06 pm)
Re: [PATCH] fix up perfmon to build on -mm, Greg KH, (Fri Nov 9, 5:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH] fix up perfmon to build on -mm, Andi Kleen, (Sat Nov 10, 4:32 pm)
perfmon2 merge news, Robert Richter, (Tue Nov 13, 11:17 am)
Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, William Cohen, (Tue Nov 13, 11:35 am)
Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Andi Kleen, (Tue Nov 13, 4:42 pm)
Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Stephane Eranian, (Tue Nov 13, 1:55 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Philip Mucci, (Tue Nov 13, 2:47 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Christoph Hellwig, (Tue Nov 13, 6:27 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Greg KH, (Tue Nov 13, 2:59 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Stephane Eranian, (Tue Nov 13, 5:33 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Greg KH, (Tue Nov 13, 5:45 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 4:07 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Paul Mackerras, (Wed Nov 14, 3:24 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Nov 14, 6:38 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Paul Mackerras, (Wed Nov 14, 6:43 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Nov 14, 7:00 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Andi Kleen, (Wed Nov 14, 8:38 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, dean gaudet, (Thu Nov 15, 12:20 am)
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Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Paul Mackerras, (Thu Nov 15, 12:47 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, dean gaudet, (Thu Nov 15, 1:14 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 3:48 pm)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Stephane Eranian, (Wed Nov 14, 10:13 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Andi Kleen, (Wed Nov 14, 10:26 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Paul Mackerras, (Wed Nov 14, 8:23 pm)
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Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Stephane Eranian, (Wed Nov 14, 9:47 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 7:52 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 7:12 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Paul Mackerras, (Wed Nov 14, 7:44 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Stephane Eranian, (Wed Nov 14, 9:51 am)
Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 7:52 am)
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Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news, Paul Mackerras, (Wed Nov 14, 5:50 pm)
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