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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@...>

To: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...>, Serge E. Hallyn <serge@...>

Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@...>, Stephen Smalley <sds@...>, James Morris <jmorris@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, <casey@...>, <linux-security-module@...>, <linux-kernel@...>

Subject: Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel

Date: Monday, October 8, 2007 - 4:25 pm

--- "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:

quoted text> It really seems to me that the LSM as currently structured creates
> a large barrier to entry for people who have just this little thing
> they want to do that is not possible with any existing security
> module.

I honestly think that the barrier has been more political
in nature than technical. I don't know how long you've been
watching, but no attempt to get an LSM upstream has escaped
exagerated cricism from certain factions. Only someone who wants
to get cut to metaphorical ribbons would submit a little LSM.
Maybe that will get better now. I sure hope so.

Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com
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[PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandatory A..., Casey Schaufler, (Sat Sep 29, 8:20 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Serge E. Hallyn, (Sun Sep 30, 11:47 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 1, 12:15 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Andrew Morton, (Sun Sep 30, 4:16 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Jan Engelhardt, (Mon Oct 1, 4:49 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., James Morris, (Mon Oct 1, 7:33 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 1, 11:38 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Linus Torvalds, (Mon Oct 1, 11:07 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Stephen Smalley, (Mon Oct 1, 11:40 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Theodore Tso, (Mon Oct 1, 3:00 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 1, 12:39 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Linus Torvalds, (Mon Oct 1, 12:04 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Bill Davidsen, (Tue Oct 2, 5:02 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Alan Cox, (Tue Oct 2, 8:10 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 2, 8:18 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 2, 5:20 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Bill Davidsen, (Tue Oct 2, 11:54 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 3, 12:52 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Oct 4, 9:44 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Kyle Moffett, (Thu Oct 4, 11:04 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Bill Davidsen, (Sat Oct 6, 3:14 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Oct 5, 12:45 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Serge E. Hallyn, (Mon Oct 8, 12:06 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 8, 1:20 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 8, 4:25 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 8, 4:57 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Serge E. Hallyn, (Mon Oct 8, 2:00 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Kazuki Omo(Company), (Tue Oct 30, 12:01 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Tue Oct 30, 11:07 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 8, 3:50 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Crispin Cowan, (Mon Oct 8, 5:51 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Alan Cox, (Mon Oct 8, 5:20 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Oct 10, 9:48 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Stephen Smalley, (Wed Oct 10, 11:45 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 10, 1:57 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Kyle Moffett, (Thu Oct 11, 6:46 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Thu Oct 11, 11:41 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Kyle Moffett, (Thu Oct 11, 2:53 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Alan Cox, (Thu Oct 11, 4:09 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 8, 4:39 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 8, 5:02 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 8, 3:29 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Kyle Moffett, (Fri Oct 5, 1:48 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Fri Oct 5, 12:27 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Serge E. Hallyn, (Mon Oct 8, 12:18 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Bill Davidsen, (Mon Oct 8, 7:24 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 8, 1:31 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Stephen Smalley, (Tue Oct 9, 9:52 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Tue Oct 9, 12:02 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Stephen Smalley, (Fri Oct 5, 2:42 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Oct 5, 4:11 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 8, 1:50 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 8, 2:47 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 8, 5:05 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Serge E. Hallyn, (Mon Oct 8, 2:53 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Fri Oct 5, 4:08 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 2, 7:25 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Crispin Cowan, (Wed Oct 3, 1:32 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Alan Cox, (Tue Oct 2, 8:12 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Derek Fawcus, (Thu Oct 4, 6:56 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Chuck Ebbert, (Thu Oct 4, 7:18 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Derek Fawcus, (Thu Oct 4, 7:44 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Olivier Galibert, (Mon Oct 1, 1:54 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Paul Moore, (Sun Sep 30, 4:30 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Sun Sep 30, 1:02 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Andi Kleen, (Sun Sep 30, 4:42 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Sun Sep 30, 1:14 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Andi Kleen, (Sun Sep 30, 1:34 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., , (Sun Sep 30, 7:24 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Joshua Brindle, (Sun Sep 30, 1:29 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Andi Kleen, (Sun Sep 30, 1:39 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 30, 3:07 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Paul Moore, (Sun Sep 30, 4:18 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Andi Kleen, (Sun Sep 30, 4:05 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Oct 1, 4:28 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 30, 4:22 pm)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Christoph Hellwig, (Sun Sep 30, 5:53 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Thomas Bleher, (Tue Oct 2, 4:36 am)

Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandato..., Casey Schaufler, (Sun Sep 30, 1:19 pm)

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