Hello Balbir,

On Tuesday 16 October 2007, Balbir Singh wrote:
quoted text
> Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007 schrieb Balbir Singh:
> >> I am trying to think out loud as to what the root cause of the problem
> >> might be. In one of the discussion threads, I saw utime going
> >> backwards, which seemed very odd, I suspect that those are rounding
> >> errors.
> >>
> >> I don't understand your explanation below
> >>
> >> Initially utime = 9, stime = 0, sum_exec_runtime = S1
> >>
> >> Later
> >>
> >> utime = 9, stime = 1, sum_exec_runtime = S2
> >>
> >> We can be sure that S >= (utime + stime)
> >
> > I think here is the problem. How can we be sure? We cant. utime and
> > stime are sampled, so they can be largely off in any direction,if the
> > program sleeps often and manages to synchronize itself to the timer
> > tick. Lets say a program only does a simple system call and then
> > sleeps. So sum_exec_runtime is increased by lets say 1000 cycles on a
> > 1Ghz box which means 1000ns. If now the timer tick happens exactly at
> > this moment, stime is increased by 1 tick = 1000000ns.
>
> Yes, I thought of that just after I sent out my email. In the case that
> you mention, the utime and stime accounting is incorrect anyway :-)
> I think we need to find a better solution. I was going to propose that
> we round correctly in (the divisions in)
>
> 1. task_utime()
> 2. clock_t_to_cputime()
>
> I suspect we'll need to round task_utime() to p->utime if the value of
> task_utime() < p->utime and the same thing for task_stime(). I've tried
> reproducing the problem on my UML setup without any success. Let me
> try and grab an x86 box.

Any progress on this issue? I noticed that it's still there in current git.

If a better implementation is not expected any time soon, how about an ACK 
on the reversion patch Christian proposed in
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/16/76
so we can at least get rid of the regression?

Thanks,
Frans Pop
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