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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@...>

To: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...>

Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@...>, Greg KH <greg@...>, Simon Arlott <simon@...>, Chris Wright <chrisw@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <linux-security-module@...>, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...>, Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@...>, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...>, James Morris <jmorris@...>, Crispin Cowan <crispin@...>, Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@...>, Alan Cox <alan@...>

Subject: Re: eradicating out of tree modules

Date: Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 10:37 am

Tilman Schmidt wrote:
quoted text> Am 28.10.2007 10:25 schrieb Stefan Richter:
>> You two are hypothesizing.
> 
> No, we're not. We're discussing the very real issue of whether
> LSM should be amputated in such a way as to make life difficult
> for out of tree security module developers.

I still believe you are.  From what I understood, the API change had
technical reasons.  (What I have read is that using security modules in
the form of loadable and unloadable kernel modules didn't make sense.)
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Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 10:18 pm)

Re: Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Crispin Cowan, (Sun Oct 21, 9:12 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Andreas Gruenbacher, (Fri Oct 19, 4:26 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, James Morris, (Fri Oct 19, 5:07 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Oct 19, 4:40 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Oct 20, 7:05 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, James Morris, (Sat Oct 20, 6:57 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 5:13 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Arjan van de Ven, (Tue Oct 23, 12:09 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], James Morris, (Tue Oct 23, 12:56 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Arjan van de Ven, (Tue Oct 23, 12:57 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Chris Wright, (Tue Oct 23, 1:16 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Oct 23, 8:31 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Oct 24, 1:06 am)

Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to st..., Simon Arlott, (Wed Oct 24, 7:50 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Tetsuo Handa, (Sat Oct 27, 10:08 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Mon Nov 5, 2:42 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Wed Oct 24, 8:55 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Wed Oct 24, 2:11 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Wed Oct 24, 6:31 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Tilman Schmidt, (Thu Oct 25, 7:09 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Greg KH, (Thu Oct 25, 10:56 pm)

Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framework], Jan Engelhardt, (Mon Oct 29, 7:51 pm)

Re: Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framew..., Lee Revell, (Mon Oct 29, 8:46 pm)

Re: Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framew..., Jan Engelhardt, (Mon Oct 29, 9:19 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Tilman Schmidt, (Fri Oct 26, 5:46 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Fri Oct 26, 7:26 pm)

eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Modu..., Tilman Schmidt, (Sat Oct 27, 10:47 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *..., Adrian Bunk, (Sat Oct 27, 8:55 pm)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 2:51 pm)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Oct 28, 3:25 pm)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Mon Oct 29, 8:29 pm)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Tue Oct 30, 9:11 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Greg KH, (Tue Oct 30, 11:30 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Xavier Bestel, (Tue Oct 30, 9:19 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Stefan Richter, (Sun Oct 28, 5:25 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 8:01 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Stefan Richter, (Sun Oct 28, 10:37 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 12:55 pm)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Simon Arlott, (Sun Oct 28, 10:59 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Stefan Richter, (Sat Oct 27, 1:31 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Greg KH, (Fri Oct 26, 11:58 am)

eradicating out of tree modules (was: Linux Security *Module..., Tilman Schmidt, (Sat Oct 27, 10:07 am)

Re: eradicating out of tree modules (was: Linux Security *Mo..., Adrian Bunk, (Sat Oct 27, 9:21 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Fri Oct 26, 12:32 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Fri Oct 26, 3:09 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Greg KH, (Fri Oct 26, 11:54 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Thu Oct 25, 7:44 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 6:58 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Chris Wright, (Wed Oct 24, 8:23 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 9:42 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Toshiharu Harada, (Mon Oct 29, 11:23 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 30, 4:40 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Toshiharu Harada, (Tue Oct 30, 5:21 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Tue Oct 30, 4:50 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 30, 5:27 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Pavel Machek, (Sat Oct 27, 2:22 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 3:42 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework, Jan Engelhardt, (Sun Oct 28, 4:46 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Ray Lee, (Wed Oct 24, 8:35 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Thu Oct 25, 5:19 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Ray Lee, (Thu Oct 25, 12:04 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Tue Oct 30, 5:41 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Oct 25, 1:10 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Alan Cox, (Wed Oct 24, 9:41 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Sun Oct 28, 6:08 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Oct 29, 1:12 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Peter Dolding, (Sun Oct 28, 7:55 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Alan Cox, (Sun Oct 28, 6:50 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Mon Nov 26, 4:42 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Ray Lee, (Thu Oct 25, 2:17 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Pavel Machek, (Sat Oct 27, 2:29 pm)

RE: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Hua Zhong, (Sun Oct 28, 3:05 pm)

RE: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Hua Zhong, (Sun Oct 28, 2:48 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Alan Cox, (Thu Oct 25, 6:21 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Thu Oct 25, 11:45 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Peter Dolding, (Fri Oct 26, 1:44 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Wed Oct 24, 10:11 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Peter Dolding, (Wed Oct 24, 9:26 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Wed Oct 24, 7:32 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 24, 7:42 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Chris Wright, (Wed Oct 24, 8:41 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Toshiharu Harada, (Mon Oct 29, 11:37 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Oct 24, 10:19 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 9:03 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 2:51 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Wed Oct 24, 4:18 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 4:46 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 5:29 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Wed Oct 24, 2:59 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 3:04 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., David P. Quigley, (Wed Oct 24, 5:02 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Thu Oct 25, 7:38 am)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 5:58 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., David P. Quigley, (Wed Oct 24, 6:04 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 5:42 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Serge E. Hallyn, (Wed Oct 24, 5:37 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Kyle Moffett, (Wed Oct 24, 11:50 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Wed Oct 24, 9:50 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 5:51 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., David P. Quigley, (Wed Oct 24, 6:02 pm)

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 7:13 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Chris Wright, (Tue Oct 23, 8:32 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 5:10 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Chris Wright, (Tue Oct 23, 5:13 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 5:14 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Oct 21, 6:59 pm)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Giacomo Catenazzi, (Tue Oct 23, 1:44 am)

Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 4:55 am)

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