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From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@...>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@...>, Greg KH <greg@...>, Simon Arlott <simon@...>, Chris Wright <chrisw@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <linux-security-module@...>, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...>, Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@...>, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...>, James Morris <jmorris@...>, Crispin Cowan <crispin@...>, Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@...>, Alan Cox <alan@...>
Subject: Re: eradicating out of tree modules
Date: Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 8:01 am

Am 28.10.2007 10:25 schrieb Stefan Richter:

No, we're not. We're discussing the very real issue of whether
LSM should be amputated in such a way as to make life difficult
for out of tree security module developers.


That's good. If that was consensus then this discussion would
not be necessary. What I am protesting against is attempts to
change the API purposely to obstruct out-of-tree code. That is
not a way to improve the kernel.

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Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 10:18 pm)
Re: Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Crispin Cowan, (Sun Oct 21, 9:12 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Andreas Gruenbacher, (Fri Oct 19, 4:26 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, James Morris, (Fri Oct 19, 5:07 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Oct 19, 4:40 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Oct 20, 7:05 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, James Morris, (Sat Oct 20, 6:57 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 5:13 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Arjan van de Ven, (Tue Oct 23, 12:09 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], James Morris, (Tue Oct 23, 12:56 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Arjan van de Ven, (Tue Oct 23, 12:57 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Chris Wright, (Tue Oct 23, 1:16 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Oct 23, 8:31 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Oct 24, 1:06 am)
Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to st..., Simon Arlott, (Wed Oct 24, 7:50 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Tetsuo Handa, (Sat Oct 27, 10:08 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Mon Nov 5, 2:42 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Wed Oct 24, 8:55 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Wed Oct 24, 2:11 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Wed Oct 24, 6:31 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Tilman Schmidt, (Thu Oct 25, 7:09 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Greg KH, (Thu Oct 25, 10:56 pm)
Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framework], Jan Engelhardt, (Mon Oct 29, 7:51 pm)
Re: Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framew..., Lee Revell, (Mon Oct 29, 8:46 pm)
Re: Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framew..., Jan Engelhardt, (Mon Oct 29, 9:19 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Tilman Schmidt, (Fri Oct 26, 5:46 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Fri Oct 26, 7:26 pm)
eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Modu..., Tilman Schmidt, (Sat Oct 27, 10:47 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *..., Adrian Bunk, (Sat Oct 27, 8:55 pm)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 2:51 pm)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Oct 28, 3:25 pm)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Mon Oct 29, 8:29 pm)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Tue Oct 30, 9:11 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Greg KH, (Tue Oct 30, 11:30 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Xavier Bestel, (Tue Oct 30, 9:19 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Stefan Richter, (Sun Oct 28, 5:25 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 8:01 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Stefan Richter, (Sun Oct 28, 10:37 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 12:55 pm)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Simon Arlott, (Sun Oct 28, 10:59 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules, Stefan Richter, (Sat Oct 27, 1:31 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Greg KH, (Fri Oct 26, 11:58 am)
eradicating out of tree modules (was: Linux Security *Module..., Tilman Schmidt, (Sat Oct 27, 10:07 am)
Re: eradicating out of tree modules (was: Linux Security *Mo..., Adrian Bunk, (Sat Oct 27, 9:21 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Fri Oct 26, 12:32 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Fri Oct 26, 3:09 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Greg KH, (Fri Oct 26, 11:54 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Thu Oct 25, 7:44 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 6:58 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Chris Wright, (Wed Oct 24, 8:23 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 9:42 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Toshiharu Harada, (Mon Oct 29, 11:23 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 30, 4:40 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Toshiharu Harada, (Tue Oct 30, 5:21 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Tue Oct 30, 4:50 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 30, 5:27 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Pavel Machek, (Sat Oct 27, 2:22 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 28, 3:42 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework, Jan Engelhardt, (Sun Oct 28, 4:46 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Ray Lee, (Wed Oct 24, 8:35 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Thu Oct 25, 5:19 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Ray Lee, (Thu Oct 25, 12:04 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Tue Oct 30, 5:41 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Oct 25, 1:10 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Alan Cox, (Wed Oct 24, 9:41 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Sun Oct 28, 6:08 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Oct 29, 1:12 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Peter Dolding, (Sun Oct 28, 7:55 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Alan Cox, (Sun Oct 28, 6:50 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Mon Nov 26, 4:42 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Ray Lee, (Thu Oct 25, 2:17 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Pavel Machek, (Sat Oct 27, 2:29 pm)
RE: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Hua Zhong, (Sun Oct 28, 3:05 pm)
RE: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Hua Zhong, (Sun Oct 28, 2:48 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Alan Cox, (Thu Oct 25, 6:21 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Thu Oct 25, 11:45 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Peter Dolding, (Fri Oct 26, 1:44 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Wed Oct 24, 10:11 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Peter Dolding, (Wed Oct 24, 9:26 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Adrian Bunk, (Wed Oct 24, 7:32 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 24, 7:42 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Chris Wright, (Wed Oct 24, 8:41 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Toshiharu Harada, (Mon Oct 29, 11:37 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Oct 24, 10:19 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 9:03 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 2:51 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Crispin Cowan, (Wed Oct 24, 4:18 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 4:46 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 5:29 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Wed Oct 24, 2:59 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 3:04 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., David P. Quigley, (Wed Oct 24, 5:02 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Simon Arlott, (Thu Oct 25, 7:38 am)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Casey Schaufler, (Wed Oct 24, 5:58 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., David P. Quigley, (Wed Oct 24, 6:04 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 5:42 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Serge E. Hallyn, (Wed Oct 24, 5:37 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Kyle Moffett, (Wed Oct 24, 11:50 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., , (Wed Oct 24, 9:50 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 5:51 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., David P. Quigley, (Wed Oct 24, 6:02 pm)
Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion t..., Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Oct 24, 7:13 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Chris Wright, (Tue Oct 23, 8:32 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 5:10 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Chris Wright, (Tue Oct 23, 5:13 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch], Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 5:14 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Oct 21, 6:59 pm)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Giacomo Catenazzi, (Tue Oct 23, 1:44 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 4:55 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Serge E. Hallyn, (Tue Oct 23, 11:20 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 11:28 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Serge E. Hallyn, (Tue Oct 23, 11:34 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, , (Thu Oct 25, 6:23 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Giacomo A. Catenazzi, (Tue Oct 23, 5:14 am)
Re: LSM conversion to static interface, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Oct 23, 5:18 am)