Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?

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To: Andi Kleen <ak@...>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 7:57 pm

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Andi Kleen wrote:

For registers it's fine. For memory, it's a disaster. It's more than just 
dirty cachelines and introducing race conditions, it's also about 
protection and dirty pages.

So even in user space, to even be correct in the first place, the compiler 
would need to make sure that the variable is writable at all (or you might 
take a SIGSEGV), but I guess that gcc just assumes it is, at least for 
globals (or gcc could depend on seeing *other* writes that are done 
unconditionally).

More likely, the compiler people don't even care, because "the C standard 
doesn't specify that behaviour" - ie things like write-protected memory or 
garbage collection based on dirty/accessed bits are outside the scope of 
what the language specifies. Much less things like pthreads or other 
synchronization primitives in threads.

			Linus
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Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Nick Piggin, (Wed Oct 24, 11:24 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Phillip Susi, (Wed Oct 31, 6:10 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Oct 25, 10:55 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Ismail , (Thu Oct 25, 6:26 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Jeff Garzik, (Thu Oct 25, 6:56 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Jeff Garzik, (Thu Oct 25, 7:04 pm)
RE: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, David Schwartz, (Thu Oct 25, 5:42 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Nick Piggin, (Thu Oct 25, 7:22 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andrew Haley, (Fri Oct 26, 7:59 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andrew Haley, (Fri Oct 26, 7:59 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Chris Friesen, (Fri Oct 26, 1:39 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Pekka Enberg, (Thu Oct 25, 11:12 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Oct 25, 3:15 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Nick Piggin, (Thu Oct 25, 6:49 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Oct 25, 7:09 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Nick Piggin, (Thu Oct 25, 7:43 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Oct 25, 7:55 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Nick Piggin, (Thu Oct 25, 7:57 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Oct 25, 7:14 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Oct 25, 7:16 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Oct 25, 7:32 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Oct 25, 7:42 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Willy Tarreau, (Fri Oct 26, 12:57 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Oct 25, 7:57 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Zachary Amsden, (Thu Oct 25, 9:15 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, linux-os (Dick Johnson), (Thu Oct 25, 7:58 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Oct 25, 8:16 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Oct 24, 11:46 pm)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Nick Piggin, (Wed Oct 24, 11:58 pm)
RE: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, David Schwartz, (Thu Oct 25, 12:29 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Nick Piggin, (Thu Oct 25, 12:47 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Samuel Tardieu, (Thu Oct 25, 5:44 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Oct 25, 5:55 am)
Re: Is gcc thread-unsafe?, Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Oct 25, 12:35 am)