remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24)

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Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 - 1:45 pm

On Tuesday 02 October 2007 07:22, Andrew Morton wrote:


I don't know if Linus actually disliked the patch itself, or disliked
my (maybe confusingly worded) rationale?

To clarify: it is not zero_page that fundamentally causes a problem,
but it is a problem that was exposed when I rationalised the page
refcounting in the kernel (and mapcounting in the mm).

I see about 4 things we can do:
1. Nothing
2. Remove zero_page
3. Reintroduce some refcount special-casing for the zero page
4. zero_page per-node or per-cpu or whatever

1 and 2 kind of imply that nothing much sane should use the zero_page
much (the former also implies that we don't care much about those who
do, but in that case, why not go for code removal?).

3 and 4 are if we think there are valid heavy users of zero page, or we
are worried about hurting badly written apps by removing it. If the former,
I'd love to hear about them; if the latter, then it definitely is a valid
concern and I have a patch to avoid refcounting (but if this is the case
then I do hope that one day we can eventually remove it).



Care to give it one more round through -mm? Is it easy enough to
keep? I haven't had a chance to review it, which I'd like to do at some
point (and I don't think it would hurt to have a bit more testing).
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-mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andrew Morton, (Mon Oct 1, 5:22 pm)
new aops merge [was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24], Hugh Dickins, (Tue Oct 2, 12:21 pm)
x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andi Kleen, (Tue Oct 2, 2:18 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andrew Morton, (Tue Oct 2, 2:32 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Oct 2, 3:37 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andi Kleen, (Tue Oct 2, 3:46 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Oct 2, 3:58 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andi Kleen, (Tue Oct 2, 3:01 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andy Whitcroft, (Tue Oct 2, 5:26 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andrew Morton, (Tue Oct 2, 3:18 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki, (Tue Oct 2, 3:36 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Christoph Lameter, (Tue Oct 2, 2:16 pm)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Nish Aravamudan, (Tue Oct 2, 12:40 pm)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andrew Morton, (Tue Oct 2, 3:43 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki, (Tue Oct 2, 4:16 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Christoph Lameter, (Tue Oct 2, 2:18 pm)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Yasunori Goto, (Tue Oct 2, 6:48 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Lee Schermerhorn, (Tue Oct 2, 1:25 pm)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Lee Schermerhorn, (Tue Oct 2, 1:17 pm)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Matt Mackall, (Tue Oct 2, 3:55 am)
Re: x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andi Kleen, (Tue Oct 2, 3:59 am)
Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Pekka Enberg, (Tue Oct 2, 12:12 pm)
v4l-stk11xx* [Was: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24], Jiri Slaby, (Tue Oct 2, 3:59 am)
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Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Borislav Petkov, (Sat Oct 13, 4:44 am)
Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Andrew Morton, (Sat Oct 13, 4:52 am)
Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Borislav Petkov, (Sat Oct 13, 7:45 am)
r/o bind mounts, was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24, Christoph Hellwig, (Tue Oct 9, 5:19 am)
remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Nick Piggin, (Tue Oct 2, 1:45 pm)
Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 3, 11:21 am)
Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 9, 10:52 am)
Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 9, 10:22 pm)
Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Hugh Dickins, (Wed Oct 10, 12:06 am)
Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 10, 1:20 am)
Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 10, 11:04 am)
Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 9, 11:06 pm)
wibbling over the cpuset shed domain connnection, Paul Jackson, (Mon Oct 1, 5:34 pm)
Re: wibbling over the cpuset shed domain connnection, Nick Piggin, (Tue Oct 2, 8:36 am)
Re: wibbling over the cpuset shed domain connnection, Paul Jackson, (Wed Oct 3, 1:21 am)
Re: wibbling over the cpuset shed domain connnection, Nick Piggin, (Tue Oct 2, 9:12 am)
Re: wibbling over the cpuset shed domain connnection, Paul Jackson, (Wed Oct 3, 3:00 am)
Re: wibbling over the cpuset shed domain connnection, Andrew Morton, (Wed Oct 3, 6:57 am)
per BDI dirty limit (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Peter Zijlstra, (Tue Oct 2, 4:17 am)
Re: per BDI dirty limit (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Martin Knoblauch, (Wed Oct 3, 7:00 am)
Re: per BDI dirty limit (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Peter Zijlstra, (Fri Oct 26, 10:48 am)
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Re: per BDI dirty limit (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Peter Zijlstra, (Fri Oct 26, 11:33 am)
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Re: per BDI dirty limit (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24), Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Oct 27, 12:07 pm)