Re: What still uses the block layer?

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Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 4:34 pm

On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:54:33PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

And worse yet, depending on what BIOS options you set at config time,
or what might happen after you upgrade the BIOS, whether the drive
looks like PATA or SATA could change over time.  So if you have
/dev/hda hard-coded in your /etc/fstab file, you could and probably
will potentially lose after you change a BIOS option or take a BIOS
upgrade causing the BIOS configs to get resent and disabling PATA
emulation, such that your disk that had previously been /dev/hda now
shows up as /dev/sda.  (And this is something you will very badly
*want* since your disk drive access will be **much** faster once you
stop using PATA emulation.)

Yet another reason why people who desperately are trying to cling to
the good old days of stable device enumerations are going to be
disappointed; the *type* of the drive can change over time, even for
something as simple as a laptop's primary hard drive, which seem to be
some people's favorite example.

Unfortunately, people are just going to have to suck it up and get
used to a much more complicated world.

						- Ted
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What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Thu Oct 11, 9:11 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Sat Oct 13, 6:05 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, James Bottomley, (Sun Oct 14, 6:24 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Luben Tuikov, (Sun Oct 14, 8:45 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 2:51 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Luben Tuikov, (Mon Oct 15, 4:37 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Sun Oct 14, 7:45 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, James Bottomley, (Mon Oct 15, 9:10 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 5:51 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 15, 2:00 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 4:36 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 15, 1:25 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 6:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Oct 15, 2:46 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Oct 17, 7:43 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 2:33 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Mon Oct 15, 2:00 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Oct 15, 10:00 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Garrett, (Mon Oct 15, 2:56 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Mon Oct 15, 9:08 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Oct 15, 4:52 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Sun Oct 14, 9:45 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 4:04 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Wed Oct 17, 1:34 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Wed Oct 17, 2:07 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Mon Oct 15, 9:21 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Mon Oct 15, 10:51 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Douglas Gilbert, (Mon Oct 15, 10:46 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Mon Oct 15, 9:29 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Oct 15, 1:44 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Mon Oct 15, 9:35 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Loïc Grenié, (Mon Oct 15, 6:32 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 5:09 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Julian Calaby, (Mon Oct 15, 5:06 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 6:08 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 15, 1:33 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Mon Oct 15, 10:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Oct 16, 12:04 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Tue Oct 16, 12:21 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 1:00 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Arjan van de Ven, (Tue Oct 16, 12:11 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 12:15 am)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 15, 11:55 pm)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Oct 16, 12:38 am)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Oct 16, 5:31 am)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Oct 16, 12:45 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, David Newall, (Sun Oct 14, 1:54 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Sun Oct 14, 1:46 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Sun Oct 14, 7:36 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Mon Oct 15, 1:44 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 5:26 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Wilfried Klaebe, (Mon Oct 15, 4:29 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Mon Oct 15, 12:08 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Mon Oct 15, 1:10 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Mon Oct 15, 11:06 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Tue Oct 16, 6:19 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 3:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Oct 16, 3:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 4:55 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Gabor Gombas, (Wed Oct 17, 5:48 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Wed Oct 17, 5:04 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Wed Oct 17, 1:23 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Tue Oct 16, 5:49 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Tue Oct 16, 4:34 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 4:56 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 4:18 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 1:56 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 14, 6:35 pm)