Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block layer?)

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To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...>
Cc: Rob Landley <rob@...>, James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <linux-scsi@...>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...>, Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@...>, Nick Piggin <piggin@...>
Date: Monday, October 15, 2007 - 7:40 am

On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:37:44PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:

About 6 weeks ago, on a 2.6.23-rc kernel, I accidentally typed "make
-j", and left off the 4 before I hit the return key.  About 2-3
minutes later, the box locked pretty tight.  I managed to switch to a
VT console before I lost total control of X (took many, many minutes
to do the switch), but after many minutes, managed to get logged into
the console, but I wasn't able to get a ps command to complete so I
could start killing processes.  (I probably should have just done a
"killall make" right away, but hindsight is 20/20.)

The console was showing that the OOM killer was attempting to kill
processes, but apparently not fast enough to stem the tide of all of
the new processes getting generated by the make -j.  (I'm guessing
that it was killing the gcc processes and not the make processes.)


I tried sysrq-f (oom_kill), but no dice.  Given that the oom killer
was active and apparently triggering on its own, this wasn't all that
surprising.

The interesting thing is I tried to do an sysrq-e (send SIGTERM to all
processes except), waited 5 minutes or so, then tried an alt-sysrq-i
(send SIGKILL to all processes except init), and the system was still
thrashing itself to death, even after giving it plenty of time to try
to recover.

I finally gave up and held down the power button.  This was on a box
with 4 gigs memory (but only 3 gigs visible thanks a cheap
BIOS/chipset) and 4 gigs swap (mainly intended for suspend/resume).

I chalked it up to me being stupid (I should have noticed and
Ctrl-C'ed the make -j much more quickly, or if I were a sysadmin on a
time-sharing system with users I didn't trust, configured RLIMIT_NPROC
and/or per-user container resource limits) and the OOM killer not
being aggressive enough in such a situation.  But having better things
to do, I didn't go whining on LKML about it, although I have to say
that the kernel behavior isn't exactly ideal.  One of these days when
I have time, I'll try investigating it with a few memlocked processes
running at real-time priorities and Systemtap and figure out what the
heck was going on....

I suppose I should just configure suspending to a file instead of a
swap partition, but I've just historically trusted suspend/resume to a
swap partition much more than to a file.  Or maybe I should hack in a
sysctl to prevent any swapping even though the swap partition is
configured (so only suspend/resume will use it).

					- Ted
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What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Thu Oct 11, 9:11 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Sat Oct 13, 6:05 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, James Bottomley, (Sun Oct 14, 6:24 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Luben Tuikov, (Sun Oct 14, 8:45 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 2:51 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Luben Tuikov, (Mon Oct 15, 4:37 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Sun Oct 14, 7:45 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, James Bottomley, (Mon Oct 15, 9:10 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 5:51 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 15, 2:00 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 4:36 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 15, 1:25 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 6:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Oct 15, 2:46 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Oct 17, 7:43 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 2:33 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Mon Oct 15, 2:00 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Oct 15, 10:00 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Garrett, (Mon Oct 15, 2:56 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Mon Oct 15, 9:08 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Oct 15, 4:52 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Sun Oct 14, 9:45 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 4:04 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Wed Oct 17, 1:34 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Wed Oct 17, 2:07 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Mon Oct 15, 9:21 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Mon Oct 15, 10:51 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Douglas Gilbert, (Mon Oct 15, 10:46 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Mon Oct 15, 9:29 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Oct 15, 1:44 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Mon Oct 15, 9:35 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Loïc Grenié, (Mon Oct 15, 6:32 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 5:09 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Julian Calaby, (Mon Oct 15, 5:06 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 6:08 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 15, 1:33 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Mon Oct 15, 10:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Oct 16, 12:04 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Greg KH, (Tue Oct 16, 12:21 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 1:00 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Arjan van de Ven, (Tue Oct 16, 12:11 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 12:15 am)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Mon Oct 15, 11:55 pm)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Oct 16, 12:38 am)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Oct 16, 5:31 am)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Oct 16, 12:45 am)
Re: OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block laye..., Theodore Tso, (Mon Oct 15, 7:40 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, David Newall, (Sun Oct 14, 1:54 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Sun Oct 14, 1:46 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Sun Oct 14, 7:36 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Mon Oct 15, 1:44 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Rob Landley, (Mon Oct 15, 5:26 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Wilfried Klaebe, (Mon Oct 15, 4:29 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Mon Oct 15, 12:08 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Mon Oct 15, 1:10 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Mon Oct 15, 11:06 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Tue Oct 16, 6:19 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 3:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Oct 16, 3:54 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Tue Oct 16, 4:55 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Gabor Gombas, (Wed Oct 17, 5:48 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, , (Wed Oct 17, 5:04 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Wed Oct 17, 1:23 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Alan Cox, (Tue Oct 16, 5:49 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Theodore Tso, (Tue Oct 16, 4:34 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 4:56 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 4:18 pm)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 16, 1:56 am)
Re: What still uses the block layer?, Tilman Schmidt, (Sun Oct 14, 6:35 pm)