> On Sunday 14 October 2007 12:40:35 Markus Rechberger wrote:
> > On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200
> > > "Markus Rechberger" <mrechberger@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an
> > > additional paragraph.
> > >
> > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c | 1 -
> > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-input.c | 1 -
> > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-video.c | 6 +-
> > > >
> > > > not accepted
> > >
> > > Until your attempt to get the userspace-driver work merged into the
> > > kernel is successful (and from my reading of last month's
> > > discussion it is nowhere near that), we should continue to maintain
> > > the present driver.
> > >
> > > If you choose to not participate in that maintenance then others
> > > will need to do their best in this regard.
> > >
> > > What we should not and will not do is to permit the current driver
> > > to be held hostage to your attempt to force a controversial and
> > > apparently unwelcome change into the tree.
> >
> > (please read through it ... )
> >
> > I didn't comment this one yet, so here a few further details. Note
> > I'm not looking forward to annoy other developers I want to get that
> > driver completly done.
> >
> > some background information on the further userspace idea:
> >
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2007-September/
> >007497.html
> >
> > short overview, this driver has moved a massive amount to userspace:
> > libtuner/
> > (libtuner.so) User-mode drivers for tuners, demodulators, and
> > anything else that constitutes the "frontend".
> >
> > So how is this related to my project? This project can reuse all the
> > userspace demods and tuner code which I have as they are including
> > the floating point stuff.
> >
> > I had a discussion with Hans Verkuil (the IVTV maintainer) about my
> > requirements and his answer was:
> >
> > 2:06 <hverkuil> - However, it is a fact that the relationship between
> > you and the linux(tv) community are strained to put it mildly. I
> > remain convinced that none of this has any technical basis but has
> > all to do with personality conflicts. To be honest, right now I think
> > there is no solution in sight. This is a valid reason to consider
> > stopping.
>
> Um, please ask next time when you want to quote from a private
> discussion.
>
> To put it in perspective: I meant here that stopping the em28xx
> development using GPL is a consideration, not to take em28xx hostage.
> My first point in that same discussion was this:
>
> "hverkuil: - It is pointless to worry about what others might do with
> your GPL code. Anyone can take it at any time and who knows, they might
> succeed. Then again, they might not. In any case, it shouldn't be a
> reason to consider stopping."
>
> The only people you are hurting by taking em28xx offline are the
> end-users and yourself, I'm sorry to say.
>
