Re: Free Linux Driver Development!

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To: Greg KH <greg@...>
Cc: <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:45 pm

> All that is needed is some kind of specification that describes how your
 > device works, or the email address of an engineer that is willing to
 > answer questions every once in a while.  A few sample devices might be
 > good to have so that debugging doesn't have to be done by email, but if
 > necessary, that can be done.

 > This driver will work with all[1] of the different
 > CPU types supported by Linux, the largest number of CPU types supported
 > by any operating system ever before in the history of computing.

 > As for support, the driver will be supported through email by the
 > original developers, when they can help out, and by the "enterprise"
 > Linux distributors as part of their service agreements with their
 > customers.

I'm all for openness of device programming specs, but I think it's a
bit disingenous to suggest that all a company has to do to get a
driver written and supported is throw some documentation over the
wall.  And it's crazy to suggest that the driver will work on every
platform and be supported by enterprise distros.

Just look at the in-tree drivers: there are tons of them that don't
work on big-endian platforms, or have 64-bit problems, or have no SMP
support.  And that doesn't even count drivers that are so bitrotted
they won't even build any more.  And there are plenty of documented
devices that no one cares enough about to submit a driver for.

In the real world, a vendor that wants to make sure a device is
supported by Linux had better pay someone to write the driver and keep
it working.  Of course, if the device is popular enough or simple
enough, docs are all that's needed, but in many cases no one competent
to write the driver is going to volunteer to do it.

 - R.
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Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Mon Jan 29, 9:29 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Pierre Ossman, (Sun Feb 4, 2:59 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Feb 6, 2:44 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Manu Abraham, (Tue Feb 6, 4:29 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Feb 6, 2:21 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Miguel Ojeda, (Wed Feb 7, 3:12 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Wed Feb 7, 2:42 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Michael K. Edwards, (Tue Jan 30, 10:27 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Wed Jan 31, 2:26 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Kumar Gala, (Wed Jan 31, 2:48 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Michael K. Edwards, (Wed Jan 31, 4:01 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Andrew Lyon, (Tue Jan 30, 4:15 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 4:30 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Christer Weinigel, (Sun Feb 4, 9:29 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Sun Feb 4, 2:19 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Christer Weinigel, (Sun Feb 4, 5:33 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Dmitri Vorobiev, (Tue Jan 30, 3:08 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:49 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 1:45 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:10 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Sergei Organov, (Wed Jan 31, 1:41 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Thu Feb 1, 1:46 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Sergei Organov, (Thu Feb 1, 10:22 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Alan, (Thu Feb 1, 10:41 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Jan 30, 9:13 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 9:24 pm)
Re: Rewriting floppy.c was Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz..., (Thu Feb 1, 9:12 am)
Re: Rewriting floppy.c was Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan-Benedict Glaw, (Wed Jan 31, 5:46 pm)
Re: Rewriting floppy.c was Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Lennart Sorensen, (Wed Jan 31, 2:58 pm)
Re: Rewriting floppy.c was Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Trent Waddington, (Wed Jan 31, 5:32 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Jan 30, 10:14 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Stefan Seyfried, (Mon Feb 5, 5:49 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Bill Davidsen, (Tue Feb 6, 11:12 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Stefan Seyfried, (Tue Feb 6, 12:11 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Sunil Naidu, (Tue Feb 6, 9:37 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Gene Heskett, (Tue Feb 6, 12:30 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Gene Heskett, (Tue Feb 6, 12:36 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Dave Jones, (Tue Feb 6, 10:57 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz..., (Tue Jan 30, 10:11 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Trent Waddington, (Tue Jan 30, 9:19 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Jan 30, 10:14 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Diego Calleja, (Tue Jan 30, 3:52 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 4:11 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 3:29 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Alan, (Tue Jan 30, 6:43 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:54 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 5:46 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Laurent Pinchart, (Wed Feb 7, 6:30 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 6:34 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 6:50 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 7:09 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 7:29 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 8:16 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 9:07 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 9:30 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 8:46 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Manu Abraham, (Tue Jan 30, 7:45 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 7:05 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Jan 30, 6:27 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 3:46 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Eric Sandeen, (Wed Jan 31, 1:03 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Alan, (Wed Jan 31, 1:28 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Wed Jan 31, 1:07 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Eric Sandeen, (Wed Jan 31, 1:09 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Tejun Heo, (Wed Feb 7, 10:03 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Wed Feb 7, 2:40 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 5:38 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 6:08 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 6:15 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 7:01 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 5:47 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 6:00 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Jan 31, 1:50 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, alan, (Wed Jan 31, 1:58 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Jan 31, 2:29 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, alan, (Wed Jan 31, 3:17 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Wed Jan 31, 1:55 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Dave Airlie, (Tue Jan 30, 6:14 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Trent Waddington, (Tue Jan 30, 6:24 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 6:41 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, David Hollis, (Wed Jan 31, 9:34 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Jan 31, 1:56 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Bill Davidsen, (Sun Feb 4, 4:54 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Bob Copeland, (Wed Jan 31, 2:37 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Thu Feb 1, 1:52 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 6:12 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Jan 30, 6:23 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Michael Buesch, (Thu Feb 1, 11:46 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Lennart Sorensen, (Thu Feb 1, 12:42 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Michael K. Edwards, (Thu Feb 1, 1:48 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Erik Mouw, (Thu Feb 1, 9:59 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Lennart Sorensen, (Thu Feb 1, 10:45 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Erik Mouw, (Thu Feb 1, 6:39 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 6:19 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, John W. Linville, (Tue Jan 30, 6:39 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 2:20 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Roland Dreier, (Tue Jan 30, 3:02 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Jan 30, 3:36 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jeff V. Merkey, (Tue Jan 30, 2:11 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Manu Abraham, (Tue Jan 30, 1:55 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Manu Abraham, (Tue Jan 30, 1:30 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Bill Davidsen, (Tue Jan 30, 3:33 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:55 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:11 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Manu Abraham, (Tue Jan 30, 6:21 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Florian Weimer, (Tue Jan 30, 9:45 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:12 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Florian Weimer, (Tue Jan 30, 3:40 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:47 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Jan 30, 6:52 am)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:14 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Jan 30, 3:31 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Diego Calleja, (Tue Jan 30, 4:23 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan-Benedict Glaw, (Wed Jan 31, 5:13 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Willy Tarreau, (Wed Jan 31, 5:56 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan-Benedict Glaw, (Wed Jan 31, 6:04 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Jan 30, 4:39 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:46 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Bauke Jan Douma, (Tue Jan 30, 3:33 am)
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Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Tue Jan 30, 3:15 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Rik van Riel, (Mon Jan 29, 10:19 pm)
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, Greg KH, (Mon Jan 29, 10:23 pm)