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Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3

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To: Bob Copeland <me@...>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...>, <hch@...>, <akpm@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <linux-fsdevel@...>
Date: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 1:35 pm

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Bob Copeland wrote:

I also don't advocate any solution, only interested in the FUSE myth 
busting and making it easier to use and develop for, i.e. having the best 
possible performance with zero effort.

I checked both solutions quickly, I think they are nicely written.

The kernel driver had 30 MB/s with 10% CPU usage, the FUSE version had 
6 MB/s with high I/O waiting.

The major reason seems to be that the FUSE version reads heavily from the 
block device during pure write operations, while the kernel driver never. 
There can be several non-exclusive explanations.

One of them, as you wrote, the functionality is not exactly the same, the 
FUSE one does more. If it's relevant or not, you should know. If anything 
is involved with reading from multiply places regularly then it's relevant.

Moreover when you're writing to a block device from user space then the 
size and position of the block should be page aligned, otherwise you end up 
doing unwanted synchronous reads instead of the believed asynchronous 
writes. Solving this issue for the most common cases resulted a sometimes 
over 10 fold write speedup in ntfs-3g. But of course it would be nice if 
the kernel just provided this for everybody.

Btw, mkomfs.c is missing a '#define _FILE_OFFSET_BITS 64' which is needed 
to open LFS files.

        Szaka

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[PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sat Apr 12, 6:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 12, 8:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sat Apr 12, 11:33 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3 , Erez Zadok, (Mon Apr 14, 11:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Sun Apr 13, 5:04 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Pavel Machek, (Sun Apr 13, 6:00 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 12, 11:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Sun Apr 13, 4:01 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sun Apr 13, 4:20 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Sun Apr 13, 4:28 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 8:46 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Sun Apr 13, 6:37 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sun Apr 13, 8:45 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 6:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Fri Apr 18, 9:51 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 1:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Fri Apr 18, 1:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Apr 18, 10:23 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Fri Apr 18, 10:43 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Fri Apr 18, 7:52 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Apr 18, 8:20 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Fri Apr 18, 8:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Apr 18, 12:01 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Fri Apr 18, 12:15 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 3:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Sun Apr 13, 5:15 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 3:25 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Mon Apr 14, 5:42 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 5:58 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Mon Apr 14, 7:55 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 8:26 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Mon Apr 14, 6:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Tue Apr 15, 7:33 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Tue Apr 15, 11:23 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Wed Apr 16, 9:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Thu Apr 17, 2:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Apr 17, 4:17 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 7:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Mon Apr 14, 7:05 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 8:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 3:49 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Anton Altaparmakov, (Mon Apr 14, 4:11 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 4:26 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 4:11 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sun Apr 13, 6:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Sun Apr 13, 6:49 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sun Apr 13, 7:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Apr 15, 11:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Tue Apr 15, 12:57 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Tue Apr 15, 2:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Apr 15, 3:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Tue Apr 15, 4:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Apr 15, 4:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Tue Apr 15, 2:53 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Tue Apr 15, 4:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Tue Apr 15, 3:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, david m. richter, (Tue Apr 15, 5:46 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Mon Apr 14, 4:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 4:41 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Apr 14, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 5:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, SL Baur, (Mon Apr 14, 7:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 7:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Evgeniy Polyakov, (Mon Apr 14, 6:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 7:21 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Chris Mason, (Mon Apr 14, 10:20 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 9:13 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Mon Apr 14, 12:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Mon Apr 14, 12:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Mon Apr 14, 1:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Mon Apr 14, 1:22 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 4:36 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sun Apr 13, 9:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 1:48 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Xavier Bestel, (Mon Apr 14, 4:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 4:44 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 5:09 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 5:21 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Mon Apr 14, 6:09 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 6:22 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 7:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Mon Apr 14, 6:36 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 5:08 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 4:43 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sun Apr 13, 12:41 am)
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